Yeah, what’s interesting is Jew-hatred has really ramped up over this one. It’s coming from the progressive Left, the hard Right, and of course Islamic types of all flavors. Gad Saad, who is a frequent guest on Joe Rogan’s podcast, said, “Each group utilizes a different set of tropes but all share diabolical, orgiastic, and hateful foaming of the evil Jew. It is unrestrained all-consuming genocidal hate.”
Look at the way the mainstream media is covering this story. How can you not place some of the blame for the rise in antisemitism on the media? Watch the video below of these Hamas supporters at Harvard. Then ask yourself what the coverage would have been like from the mainstream media if it were a group of white kids surrounding a black kid and shouting, "Shame."
I don't think what is going on at Harvard or Cornell have anything to do with "the media." Conflicts over Israel/Palestine have been a significant issue on certain campuses for at least 40 years. They just don't make the news. When I was in Law School, I volunteered for the Law School's newspaper. At that time, the issues were the same, but it was the Jewish students shouting down supporters of Palestine. Even in those pre-internet days, I don't think the on-campus dynamics were primarily shaped by the mainstream media. With Gen Z, the mass media have even less of an impact.
From what I've seen, the mainstream media have been pretty careful to describe the conflict as between Hamas and the government of Israel. There has been much more ink devoted to what Israel is doing in Gaza simply reflects the fact that the Hamas massacre happened over a relatively short period of time, while Israel's military response has been going on for three weeks. New events are "news," and the new events have been the ongoing attack by Israel on Gaza.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
An estimated 1.4 million people in Gaza are internally displaced, with approximately 629,000 seeking refuge in 150 UN Relief and Works Agency (UNRWA) emergency shelters. The UNRWA reports that 70 UN workers have died as a result of Israeli bombardment in Gaza.
The mainstream media isn’t at fault here. We’re up to 45% of all residences in the Gaza Strip are damaged or destroyed.
Are HALF the residents in the Gaza Strip responsible for the hundreds of dead and injured in Israel? 1.4 MILLION displaced.
This isn’t media bias, Xanax.
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eta - this is what Palestinians have to endure day in and day out:
Xanax, would you accept being arrested in the middle of the night, blindfolded, cuffed, and hauled away just because the other side wants you to know what they can do to you at any time?
How concerned were Grant, Sherman, or Lincoln about Confederate civilian casualties? Listen to Mark Levin's account of the siege of Vicksburg. No two state solution was acceptable, only unconditional surrender. And the Confederates didn't use civilians as shields nor carry on the war as a guerrilla campaign for 50 years as the Arabs have done.
Xanax, would you accept being arrested in the middle of the night, blindfolded, cuffed, and hauled away just because the other side wants you to know what they can do to you at any time?
That's kind of what the deep state is doing to Trump supporters, anti abortion activists, Catholics, and parents who speak out against critical race theory.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
How concerned were Grant, Sherman, or Lincoln about Confederate civilian casualties? Listen to Mark Levin's account of the siege of Vicksburg. No two state solution was acceptable, only unconditional surrender. And the Confederates didn't use civilians as shields nor carry on the war as a guerrilla campaign for 50 years as the Arabs have done.
Xanax, would you accept being arrested in the middle of the night, blindfolded, cuffed, and hauled away just because the other side wants you to know what they can do to you at any time?
That's kind of what the deep state is doing to Trump supporters, anti abortion activists, Catholics, and parents who speak out against critical race theory.
So, past atrocities justify new atrocities? Really? As a kid, I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right. What were you taught?
That is absolutely nothing like the "deep state" is doing to any of those groups you listed. You know that.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
So, past atrocities justify new atrocities? Really? As a kid, I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right. What were you taught?
I think the point is that if the current group of elites who were in charge of the media and making the rules of war, the Union would have undoubtedly lost the civil war and if not that World War I and WWII. If you want something more current, way more Afghans died after 9/11 than American's who were killed. Nobody gives a rip if the Russian people were supporters of Putin or not. If two wrongs don't make a right, how do you justify conquering decimating and burning the entire southern US just to keep the south from having their own country? Are you aware that Hamas used child slave labor to build those tunnels?
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
Maher: The Young Who Hated Trump for Charlottesville Are ‘the Ones with the Tiki Torches Now’
On Friday’s broadcast of HBO’s “Real Time,” host Bill Maher commented on the rise in antisemitic speech in the wake of the Hamas terrorist attack on Israel on October 7 by stating that “the young people who hated Trump because he wouldn’t condemn the people with the Tiki torches,” are now “the ones with the Tiki torches now.”
Maher began by saying that there’s a level of “gut-wrenching” antisemitism. And “I must admit, I don’t think of myself as a naïve person. And I’ve been surprised, it was like a volcano that blew. Just that people in the United States with banners [saying,] ‘F*ck Israel.’ ‘Any means necessary.’ … I don’t know where this comes from. I guess it’s ancient, obviously, the hatred of the Jews goes way back. But I was taken aback by this.”
He added that “there are other people around the world who are oppressed, there are other ‘colonized’ places — not that Israel colonized anything — but why this one place? Why does this arouse — especially among young people? I mean, the young people who hated Trump because he wouldn’t condemn the people with the Tiki torches, talking about Jews [will not replace us], you’re the ones with the Tiki torches now.”
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
So, past atrocities justify new atrocities? Really? As a kid, I was taught that two wrongs don't make a right. What were you taught?
I think the point is that if the current group of elites who were in charge of the media and making the rules of war, the Union would have undoubtedly lost the civil war and if not that World War I and WWII. If you want something more current, way more Afghans died after 9/11 than American's who were killed. Nobody gives a rip if the Russian people were supporters of Putin or not. If two wrongs don't make a right, how do you justify conquering decimating and burning the entire southern US just to keep the south from having their own country? Are you aware that Hamas used child slave labor to build those tunnels?
Yes, we get it. You hate those you describe as "elites." But rather than addressing the only thing that people can affect -- what's happening right now -- you focus on nursing your grievances by creating nonsense hypothetical scenarios. No one can change the past. It's done. Your entire argument still comes down to the same thing: the world should conduct itself today using the the worst atrocities of the past as a standard.
You've completely garbled up the meaning of "two wrongs don't make a right." It means that you can't justify wrong conduct today by using past wrongs as an excuse. It has nothing to do with justifying the past wrongs. None of us can change the past. What we can do is learn from the past and try to do better in the present.
I'm not defending and will never defend Hamas. I'm not holding the Israeli government to some tougher standard than I apply to Hamas. But the Israeli government and military have increasingly shown disregard for Gazans who are not part of Hamas. The IDF is no openly targeting hospitals, schools, ambulances, and refugee camp. They told Gazans to flee to the south, where they would be safe, and then target locations in the south, including a refugee camp. The excuse is always Hamas something something something, but that's an easy claim to make with no evidence. As time passes, it is difficult to see the actions of the Israeli government and military as anything but collective punishment of all Gazans for the actions of Hamas. That's a war crime, and is not justified by past war crimes.
he/him we all just have to live through it,
holding each other’s hands.
Schools, hospitals, and refugee camps. 83 countries, including the US, have signed legal docs in the UN to refrain from using explosive weapons with wide-area effects – including heavy artillery and aerial bombs – in densely populated areas because of how likely they are to kill and injure civilians indiscriminately. Israel’s continuous bombardments of Gaza, which have reduced city blocks and large parts of neighborhoods to rubble, are heinous. Obviously heinous.
They have become like Russians in the eyes of the world. It’s not aNtIsEmItIsM. It’s ‘we have eyeballs and this is screwed up and surpasses what Hamas did in spades’. It’s wildly out of proportion.
How concerned were Grant, Sherman, or Lincoln about Confederate civilian casualties? Listen to Mark Levin's account of the siege of Vicksburg. No two state solution was acceptable, only unconditional surrender. And the Confederates didn't use civilians as shields nor carry on the war as a guerrilla campaign for 50 years as the Arabs have done.
Xanax, would you accept being arrested in the middle of the night, blindfolded, cuffed, and hauled away just because the other side wants you to know what they can do to you at any time?
That's kind of what the deep state is doing to Trump supporters, anti abortion activists, Catholics, and parents who speak out against critical race theory.
The excuse is always Hamas something something something, but that's an easy claim to make with no evidence.
Is there no evidence that Hamas's pentagon operates conveniently beneath a hospital? How would you expect to win a war if all the enemy has to do is conduct it's operations under a hospital or behind human shields? I think there should be laws for combat/war. But I think such laws should discourage the way Hamas is fighting, not reward them time to regroup and rearm.
And when the Confederates saw Jackson standing fearless like a stonewall, the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
