Impeachment hearings

[_moksha]

The worse thing the Democrats can do is remove Trump from office. Pence would be dangerous.

Do you think it might be wise for White House staff to get a prophylactic rabies shot?

[_Gunnar]

The worse thing the Democrats can do is remove Trump from office. Pence would be dangerous.

Yes, there is some question over what would be worse--Trump remaining in charge until the end of his current term, or Pence taking over the remainder of that term, should Trump die in office. The shorter the time remaining of the term after Trump dies, the more potential damage Pence could do, but the longer Trump lasts before his demise, the more potential damage he can still do. But that depends, of course, how rapidly he might deteriorate during the life remaining to him up to his demise. I'm not sure what would be worse, an earlier or later demise of Trump during what remains of his term.

[_Dr Exiled]

Trump will be acquitted in the Senate and then will run around the country donning his MAGA hat and declaring more of a "huge" victory than conforms to reality. The next question should be who can beat him in the general election. I think if the democrats go left, it'll happen. Sanders?

[_honorentheos]

You think if Democrats pull hard left they will win purple states such as ______________?

I'd like to hear this argument taking the electoral college into account. What's Bernie gonna do that wins Florida and Pennsylvania? You think Arizona flips for him because...?

[_EAllusion]

Trump will be acquitted in the Senate and then will run around the country donning his MAGA hat and declaring more of a "huge" victory than conforms to reality. The next question should be who can beat him in the general election. I think if the democrats go left, it'll happen. Sanders?

It's hard to beat someone who cheats. That said, individual candidate differences don't matter that much and they're all capable of winning or losing in a normal election environment. If you're instead asking who has the best marginal edge, there's really no reason to suppose it's not Biden at this point. Sanders probably isn't far off, but the evidence is weakish in any direction. Warren is probably relatively weak due her va-jay-jay and professorial manner making her super-vulnerable to bad media framing.

[_EAllusion]

What's Bernie gonna do that wins Florida and Pennsylvania?

Be an old white guy who speaks with with an old Brooklyn accent that reads as lower class. Also, be the Democratic nominee?

You think Arizona flips for him because...?

Arizona's voting demographics are trending Democrat accelerated by Trump turning off its largish suburban population.

[_Dr Exiled]

You think if Democrats pull hard left they will win purple states such as ______________?

I'd like to hear this argument taking the electoral college into account. What's Bernie gonna do that wins Florida and Pennsylvania? You think Arizona flips for him because...?

Going left might just bring out those who stayed home and let Trump win. Those who don't get off the couch, usually, might like someone who appeals to the progressive masses. Turnout, in theory, should turn purple states blue.

[_EAllusion]

Going left might just bring out those who stayed home and let Trump win. Those who don't get off the couch, usually, might like someone who appeals to the progressive masses. Turnout, in theory, should turn purple states blue.

People who switched from Obama voters to Trump voters were far more significant in Trump winning than leftwing voters who did not vote.

[Guest]

The numbers still aren't working in a generic Democrats favor right now. Strong economy, incumbent President even if unpopular generally...until the Democrat nominee emerges from the field of hopefuls there aren't good reasons to assume any of them have the better shot right now while each have issues in winning voters from their own party. I think the odds of a brokered convention are too high to imagine the person who ends up with the nomination automatically carries the anti-Trump momentum regardless of who it is. Bernie is a candidate I think Republican strategists hope wins, really.

Arizona polls of likely voters show Trump in a tough race against Biden and Buttigieg while Sanders polls in the mid30% with the best chance of Trump taking the state, behind Warren. Arizona isn't going that far left in 2020.

[_honorentheos]

https://www.phoenixnewtimes.com/news/ar ... a-11406120

Arizona numbers.