And besides that, we have the good news that New York cheered him in MSG during the game! No, really! He said so hisself!Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Jun 03, 2026 8:41 pmIran has already been making about $140-160 million every single day since Trump gave them the economic windfall of unsanctioned oil.
Iran -- destroying American assets, destabilizing global markets, attacking American allies, and causing American citizens to pay billions more in energy costs -- funded almost entirely by Trump's policy change.
Using the low end of the revenue estimate, and the high-end version of the Shahed-136 that leaked documents have shown Russia buying (that's about 9x more expensive than the basic cost), that equates to enough money to produce 725 Shahed-136 drones every single day.
The means for over 700 drones, gifted to Iran by Trump. Every, single, day.
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Trump Bombed Iranian Nuclear Site Fordo Today. Are We in WW 3?
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Ajax has claimed that nothing is more important to him than preventing Iran from getting nuclear weapons. Either he is abysmally ignorant or pathologically dishonest! He has yet to acknowledge this post quoting Lawrence O'Donnell's video showing unequivocally that 11 years ago, Obama and John Kerry triumphantly negotiated a signed agreement with Iran in which they promised to never develop nuclear weapons and let international technical inspection teams to ensure compliance with that agreement. Trump immediately tore up that agreement, without even reading it, to spite Obama and prevent him from getting credit for this diplomatic coup, for which Obama was justly awarded The Nobel Peace Prize, and then Trump imposed harder than ever sanctions on Iran.Res Ipsa wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2026 6:21 pmIt's a pity no reporter asked him which books of the Bible represent the Gospels.Jersey Girl wrote: ↑Fri Apr 17, 2026 5:10 amI swear, Trump should come with a Black Box warning. "I'm all about the Gospel". Yeah right. He doesn't even know what the Gospel is. Getting a deal with Iran re: nuclear weapons. We already had one, you dolt. Does he think we don't know any of this? He's the only one who doesn't know it. He is the least self aware person in the public eye I've ever seen in my life. Spitballing his way through his term. Again.
Lawrence: Trump, who failed to buy Stormy Daniels’ silence, now seeks Iran deal he ripped up
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=bEkiQBSMBTA
Now he has started this incredibly stupid war, resulting in Iran angrily more determined than ever before to acquire nuclear weapons in self-defense and the closing of the Straits of Hormuz and enormously raising fuel prices. Nothing he could have done would have more surely guaranteed the very outcome that Ajax thought was most important to prevent! That Ajax cannot see or understand this is mindbogglingly stupid!
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Yup. See the whole text of the JCPOA (Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action, Vienna, 14 July 2015) here:
https://2009-2017.state.gov/documents/o ... 245317.pdf
The 'Preamble' begins on the third page. The first five articles are
Note the bolded text. So the agreement that Trump ripped up as 'the worst deal ever made' included a promise from Iran to never 'seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons.'PREAMBLE AND GENERAL PROVISIONS
i The Islamic Republic of Iran and the E3/EU+3 (China, France, Germany, theRussian Federation, the United Kingdom and the United States, with the High Representative of the European Union for Foreign Affairs and Security Policy)have decided upon this long-term Joint Comprehensive Plan of Action (JCPOA). This JCPOA, reflecting a step-by-step approach, includes the reciprocal
commitments as laid down in this document and the annexes hereto and is to be endorsed by the United Nations (UN) Security Council.
ii The full implementation of this JCPOA will ensure the exclusively peaceful nature of Iran's nuclear programme.
iii Iran reaffirms that under no circumstances will Iran ever seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons.
iv Successful implementation of this JCPOA will enable Iran to fully enjoy its right to nuclear energy for peaceful purposes under the relevant articles of the nuclear
Non-Proliferation Treaty (NPT) in line with its obligations therein, and the Iranian nuclear programme will be treated in the same manner as that of any other non-nuclear-weapon state party to the NPT.
v. This JCPOA will produce the comprehensive lifting of all UN Security Council sanctions as well as multilateral and national sanctions related to Iran’s nuclear programme, including steps on access in areas of trade, technology, finance and energy.
The most probable excuse for his lies about the JCPOA? He never read it. I mean, what reasonable person might have expected him to read a document 18 pages long before denouncing its content?
And now we have a ruinously expensive war, with no end in sight, allegedly conducted with the aim of inducing Iran promise to never 'seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons.'. But, but ... That is precisely what Obama negotiated as part of the deal that won him the Nobel Peace Prize ...
Hey Ajax! Did you know that Obama's agreement included a promise by Iran to never 'seek, develop or acquire any nuclear weapons'? If so, are you happy that Trump ripped it up and started another war with Iran to get the same result?
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So, how about it, Ajax? Do you have enough courage and integrity to admit Trump made a stupid mistake?
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And please note that Obama achieved that result without blowing things up or killing lots of innocent civilians, including 120 schoolgirls!
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I don't think we'll ever get the same result, unfortunately. We might get an agreement from Iran to not pursue nuclear weapons, but Trump has shown them that the only guarantee for their own security is if they have nuclear deterrents. They already had an agreement, which (even according to Israeli intelligence) was working and they were adhering to. What reward did they receive for compliance? Trump scrapping the deal, imposing sanctions, and eventually joining in on an attack on them. They weren't the ones that scrapped the agreement, and now they know that honoring something puts them at a disadvantage because the United States is at the mercy of the next elected moron.
There's absolutely zero incentive for them to not obtain nuclear weapons now. Trump showed them that all it takes is an election in America to toss the world on its head.
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Alas, yes.Doctor Steuss wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 6:54 pmTrump has shown them that the only guarantee for their own security is if they have nuclear deterrents.
Thanks for that, American voters!
The appalling consequences of your crazy decision to re-elect Trump would be slightly easier to put up with if your chosen leaders were a little less generous with their advice to other countries about how they should run their affairs.
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Ah yes, the girls' primary school that got a direct hit. Trump instantly blamed that on the Iranians, as I recall. This incident was supposed to be the object of a thorough enquiry by the US military. Did we ever get that report? If so, where can we read it?
(A couple of days after the bombing, we learned from 'sources' that the US had used out of date information that put a revolutionary guards establishment on what was to become the site of the girls' school. Too embarrassing to admit, perhaps?)
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Certainly, too embarrassing for Trump and his cognitional impaired and Dunning–Kruger afflicted sycophants are willing to acknowledge.Chap wrote: ↑Wed Jun 10, 2026 9:32 pmAh yes, the girls' primary school that got a direct hit. Trump instantly blamed that on the Iranians, as I recall. This incident was supposed to be the object of a thorough enquiry by the US military. Did we ever get that report? If so, where can we read it?
(A couple of days after the bombing, we learned from 'sources' that the US had used out of date information that put a revolutionary guards establishment on what was to become the site of the girls' school. Too embarrassing to admit, perhaps?)
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How much did Elon pay to have the Iran strike called off and a pretend deal referenced in order for his SpaceX IPO to go good tomorrow?
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