Right Wing Violence - Media not accountable

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Kevin Graham wrote:
ajax18 wrote:How about the policemen i Texas and Louisiana killed by leftists during Obama's 2nd term.


Cops get killed every year no matter who is President d__a__. Your argument is much worse than I thought if this is all you have.
A sovereign citizen killing government workers due to being fed up with government abuses of power isn't exactly a "leftist" in the normal sense of the term. The sovereign citizen movement is mostly super-right wing. Black separatism is...not. Political categorization gets tricky there. Of course, if you're Ajax, it's easy because he was a black separatist which means "the enemy" which for him is the same thing as "leftist." No thought required.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Image
I've see this quote pop up every few months for years and years now. It never stops resonating with people.

The next line complaining about Beavis and Butthead doesn't seem to get that it was a satire, but unfortunately, Carl Sagan didn't live long enough to see Office Space or Idiocracy.
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This thread should be re-titled: Proof ajax's ignorance is willful

It's the kind of thread that makes you wonder if he's for real, and if so, what the cause is of his intellectual incapacity. Heaven forbid anyone takes away his right to be constantly wrong.

It's also one of those things that makes you wonder what the ratio between lying and being wrong is for your average Trumpette (just like the cheeto dictator himself).

I'd like to see the oranges... oranges... the oranges of... the beginnings of ajax's quest for misinformation.
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Cops get killed every year no matter who is President d__a__. Your argument is much worse than I thought if this is all you have.


Right wing extremist kill people as do left wing extremist regardless of who is in power as well. The difference is that you blame Trump while refusing to blame Obama in the same way.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:
Cops get killed every year no matter who is President d__a__. Your argument is much worse than I thought if this is all you have.


Right wing extremist kill people as do left wing extremist regardless of who is in power as well. The difference is that you blame Trump while refusing to blame Obama in the same way.
Trump has actively stoked violence against his enemies both with overt and implied rhetoric. Again and again he has walked right up to the line of soliciting violence on his behalf and praised people who would cross that line. Over and over he has used dehumanizing rhetoric common in authoritarian regimes as a prelude to violence. Obama did not do that. You exist in a fantasy-land of dishonest media that makes it difficult for you to understand this extremely important difference. You are stuck in made up events, false equivalences, and victim blaming that makes your “they do it too!” wrong in addition to childish.
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The fact that he is unaware of this furthers the point of right wing media, his only source, creates more violent types by keeping them ignorant and telling them only enough to make them dangerous.


Are you scared enough of right wing people and cops that you'd go out and purchase yourself a gun? As EAllusion always remind us, violent crime is at an all time low.
And when the confederates saw Jackson standing fearless as a stone wall the army of Northern Virginia took courage and drove the federal army off their land.
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ajax18 wrote:Are you scared enough of right wing people and cops that you'd go out and purchase yourself a gun? As EAllusion always remind us, violent crime is at an all time low.


But not among White supremacists and Trump loyalists it isn't. That's the point. According to FBI hate crimes against Mexicans is up dramatically. Gee, wonder why. Also according to FBI, hate crimes are skyrocketing and this corresponds to a dramatic increase in White Nationalism.

Your constant attempt to drag in Obama and the Obama years makes you look more of a fool. There is no comparison. The reason nobody blames Obama because some cop got killed by a black guy in 2009 is because it had nothing to do with Obama. You can't say the same thing about Neo-Nazi's attacking Mexicans, or Trump fanatics sending mail bombs to Democrats. Trump demonizes the Left in every way imaginable. He is by far the most divisive President in history and his own appointees have even said so.
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ajax18 wrote:
Cops get killed every year no matter who is President d__a__. Your argument is much worse than I thought if this is all you have.


Right wing extremist kill people as do left wing extremist regardless of who is in power as well. The difference is that you blame Trump while refusing to blame Obama in the same way.


Trump is on record advocating to his riled up crowds to go ahead and commit violence. Because that's how they did it in the "good ole days." He's done this many times. That's why he is to blame. He emboldens the murderers on the Right to keep murdering by refusing to condemn them and calling them "fine people." He's made it cool to be racist again for many in America.
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KG,

It'd be helpful if you started to provided statistics and numbers to at least attempt to support your hyperventilating. We could then juxtapose that against other demographical information to ascertain whether or not your wild eyed hand waiving merits serious consideration or not.

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EAllusion wrote:
ajax18 wrote:Right wing extremist kill people as do left wing extremist regardless of who is in power as well. The difference is that you blame Trump while refusing to blame Obama in the same way.
Trump has actively stoked violence against his enemies both with overt and implied rhetoric. Again and again he has walked right up to the line of soliciting violence on his behalf and praised people who would cross that line. Over and over he has used dehumanizing rhetoric common in authoritarian regimes as a prelude to violence. Obama did not do that. You exist in a fantasy-land of dishonest media that makes it difficult for you to understand this extremely important difference. You are stuck in made up events, false equivalences, and victim blaming that makes your “they do it too!” wrong in addition to childish.


Remember when Trump shat out this BS while giving his speech during his nomination:

I have a message for all of you: the crime and violence that today afflicts our nation will soon come to an end. Beginning on January 20th 2017, safety will be restored ...

I have a message to every last person threatening the peace on our streets and the safety of our police: when I take the oath of office next year, I will restore law and order our country.

In this race for the White House, I am the Law And Order candidate. The irresponsible rhetoric of our President, who has used the pulpit of the presidency to divide us by race and color, has made America a more dangerous environment for everyone.


Lol. Right.
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