Identifying Board Members

[Res Ipsa]

I'm going back to my pickleball-related discussion sites. I think you have to be emotionally invested to use LDS chat boards, or at least that's how it seems to me. This isn't my thing. Good luck, and may you all find peace.

I'm confused. On MDDB, you present yourself as a believing member, yet here you indicate you aren't emotionally invested regarding Mormonism?

I read through her posts over there. I’d call her a dissident member.

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I'm confused. On MDDB, you present yourself as a believing member, yet here you indicate you aren't emotionally invested regarding Mormonism?

Wow. Some interesting discussions took place over on mddb with Sara. Although multiple people kept calling her Mike, for some reason.

I’ve now read all of her posts over there, as well as responses. I didn’t see anyone calling her Mike, let alone multiple people. Would you please link me to where you saw this.

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Fernando's rule, as I will call it, opens the way for stylometric siblings of his to start new posts for the sake of trolling, and nobody is allowed to publicly suggest that it's trolling, or that the OP is a sock; at least I think this is right.

I’m not convinced that publicly wondering if (as example) Person A is a sock puppet account necessarily assigns motive. There’s a difference between these two statements:

“I think that Person A is a sock puppet”
… and …
“Person A is saying ‘x’ because they’re a sock puppet”.

Motive is ‘the reason for which (someone) initiates, continues or terminates a behavior at a given time’. It doesn’t address a state of being.

And so binger, mike, and Ceeboo have scored a point. I admit it was a sly move by Fernando. I'm not sure he outsmarted the mods, but the mods are very good people who will allow the perception of being outsmarted for the sake of a small chance of sincerity, they go the extra mile to give benefit to the doubt.

Alternatively, ‘Fernando’ may have outsmarted alleged sock puppets and posting styles like that of Binger. Binger has shown a ridiculously heavy reliance on assigning motive. And saying so isn’t ‘assigning motive’ by me; it’s a factually observable and historically verifiable thing.

The new tweak would have prevented the vast majority of Binger’s past posts, if tested under this quideline, from ever having seen the light of day in the upper kingdoms. Anyone dependent upon that posting behavior is going to need to make a few changes if they want their posts to survive.

I’m inclined to classify “X is a sockpuppet” as an attack on motive, given the sock puppet rule. Put it on the list of links to be worked out.

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Naw, our game is 7d Fizzbin.

What about Calvinball? That’s going to be next. ; )

Calvinball is so 1980.

[canpakes]

I’m not convinced that publicly wondering if (as example) Person A is a sock puppet account necessarily assigns motive. There’s a difference between these two statements:

“I think that Person A is a sock puppet”
… and …
“Person A is saying ‘x’ because they’re a sock puppet”.

I’m inclined to classify “X is a sockpuppet” as an attack on motive, given the sock puppet rule. Put it on the list of links to be worked out.

But, even your sentence is subtly different than mine. : )

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I’m inclined to classify “X is a sockpuppet” as an attack on motive, given the sock puppet rule. Put it on the list of links to be worked out.

But, even your sentence is subtly different than mine. : )

I know. It’s part of my charm.

[canpakes]

What about Calvinball? That’s going to be next. ; )

Calvinball is so 1980.

Add a decade, and you’re there. : )

[Marcus]

Wow. Some interesting discussions took place over on mddb with Sara. Although multiple people kept calling her Mike, for some reason.

I’ve now read all of her posts over there, as well as responses. I didn’t see anyone calling her Mike, let alone multiple people. Would you please link me to where you saw this.

Sure. People referred to her as mike, or said she sounded like mike, or they wondered why her posts were the same as mike, etc. here's some quotes

...I don't think there is any coincidence that the Sara H user was created the day after Mike's posts were deleted and was banned.

Edited June 28 by InCognitus

...Perhaps it’s Mike’s wife? That would explain the similarities and why she sounds so much like him sometimes but she wouldn’t be a sock puppet.

And now, like AtlanticMike did, you are trying to ascribe emotions and motives to me that I do not have. You can disagree with me all you want. I'm fine with that. But your attempt to portray me as some kind of emotional child rather than dealing with my responses to your claims is just a logical fallacy, ad-hominem attacks which are meant to distract. I don't fall for that.

Referring to an identical clip posted by Mike and also by Sara

Same with this quote, which was among the list of quotes included in a screenshot from the Mormon Think website on May 6, by AtlanticMike (posting as Truth Teller).

And more detail:

Seriously, "Sara"? You are going to make it this easy? You are blowing your cover. That's the same link I provided in response to Truth Teller (AtlanticMike) when he posted the same out of context quote taken from the Mormon Think website back on May 6 (the post can be found here). Remember the response? This is what I posted:

And Amuleks response to that

admit, Sara H has been pinging my troll-dar from day one. I know I should probably follow my own advice and not feed her, but the flesh is week.

And honestly, you are using the same narrative as AtlanticMike did when he was posting as Truth Teller and RAD DAD, trying to portray "Christianity" in a particular way. That's why you really need to provide a definition of "Christian". And just like Mike, you still aren't distinguishing between "the gospel" and "the fullness of the gospel".

i'd give links like i usually do but i'm at a party so you can find all of these by searching, in "everything", under "sara" or "mike" at mddb's main page

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Calvinball is so 1980.

Add a decade, and you’re there. : )

I have more decades than I need, thank you very much.

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I’ve now read all of her posts over there, as well as responses. I didn’t see anyone calling her Mike, let alone multiple people. Would you please link me to where you saw this.

Sure. People referred to her as mike, or said she sounded like mike, or they wondered why her posts were the same as mike, etc. here's some quotes

...I don't think there is any coincidence that the Sara H user was created the day after Mike's posts were deleted and was banned.

Edited June 28 by InCognitus

...Perhaps it’s Mike’s wife? That would explain the similarities and why she sounds so much like him sometimes but she wouldn’t be a sock puppet.

And now, like AtlanticMike did, you are trying to ascribe emotions and motives to me that I do not have. You can disagree with me all you want. I'm fine with that. But your attempt to portray me as some kind of emotional child rather than dealing with my responses to your claims is just a logical fallacy, ad-hominem attacks which are meant to distract. I don't fall for that.

Referring to an identical clip posted by Mike and also by Sara

Same with this quote, which was among the list of quotes included in a screenshot from the Mormon Think website on May 6, by AtlanticMike (posting as Truth Teller).

And more detail:

Seriously, "Sara"? You are going to make it this easy? You are blowing your cover. That's the same link I provided in response to Truth Teller (AtlanticMike) when he posted the same out of context quote taken from the Mormon Think website back on May 6 (the post can be found here). Remember the response? This is what I posted:

And Amuleks response to that

admit, Sara H has been pinging my troll-dar from day one. I know I should probably follow my own advice and not feed her, but the flesh is week.

And honestly, you are using the same narrative as AtlanticMike did when he was posting as Truth Teller and RAD DAD, trying to portray "Christianity" in a particular way. That's why you really need to provide a definition of "Christian". And just like Mike, you still aren't distinguishing between "the gospel" and "the fullness of the gospel".

i'd give links like i usually do but i'm at a party so you can find all of these by searching, in "everything", under "sara" or "mike" at mddb's main page

Thanks! Enjoy your party!

ETA: Searching on Mike led me to all sorts of interesting stuff. Thanks again.