Charlie Kirk shot at UVU in Orem

[Everybody Wang Chung]

Over at SeN, the thoughtful and prescient commentor, Axelbeingcivil posted this:

I think there's decent odds his assassin is a former fan of his. Kirk has riled his own follower base recently by claiming the Epstein files - which he touted as being a vital part of voting for Trump - are now a nothingburger. We may never know, however. The Salt Lake City FBI office is badly understaffed due to Trump's purges. The killer may actually get away clean. Time will tell.

[canpakes]

The individuals featured in this video represent the forefront of the progressive cult movement. These individuals lack any semblance of compassion whatsoever.

Likely, they’re normal people who are tired of the hate messaging coming from the Right. The kind of messaging you’re promoting in your post.

I was trying to think of someone on the Left who enjoyed the same stature and adulation of so-called patriots, and who spoke about other Americans in the same disparaging and dangerous way that Kirk did, but I can’t think of an equivalent example at the moment.

[Moksha]

It looks like the bullets they've found, along with the firearm disposed of in a wooded area, contained coded transgender messages.

Does this mean there might be a Mormon connection?

[Everybody Wang Chung]

https://youtu.be/dy3f4FFwgPU?si=JQTHz10dDwEtgzTi

For months, I've repeatedly expressed in various discussions on this board how progressives seem to have lost their sense of humility and humanity. It appears that once they become entrenched in the progressive mindset, they take pleasure in the suffering, harm, or even death of others. Everything I've been explaining about progressives is encapsulated in this one video. A street reporter is inquiring about progressives' reactions to Charlie Kirk's death, and it appears that many, if not all, of the individuals featured in this video express joy over his being shot; some are even seen dancing in celebration of their feelings. The individuals featured in this video represent the forefront of the progressive cult movement. These individuals lack any semblance of compassion whatsoever.

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Sorry, ajax, but the board isn’t promoting websites today that encourage revenge killings of innocent people.

Probably not tomorrow, either. Or any other time.

Thank you for your understanding. -c-

Ajax,

WTF?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Gee, who woulda thunk a guy who goes by a username meaning Ethnic Cleanser Adolf Hitler would link to such a site? Just evil people wishing for evil things… no biggies.

- Doc

[Gunnar]

It's pretty common to see right-wingers talk how one would expect a human being to talk in the face of tragedy to someone they consider their own. They become psychotic assholes if the same thing happens to a Democrat.

So, it's not really about the events themselves and more about keeping score.

Speaking of psychotic assholes…



Gee. No wonder Ethnic Cleanser Adolf Hitler loved that troublemaker so much.

- Doc

Most everything Charlie Kirk stood for is despicable and both stupid and antithetical to both democracy and the Christian ideals of loving one's fellow humans (even one's enemies) as oneself, in which most conservatives claim to believe. Nevertheless, assassinating him for his beliefs is every bit as immoral as anything he advocated. If his assassin is a liberal or progressive democrat opposed to what Trump and his MAGA sycophants currently stand for and are trying to accomplish (which is, by no means certain by this point), assassinating him and making a martyr of him in their eyes was the stupidest thing that assassin could possibly have done. Whoever the assassin is deserves the same prosecution and legal penalties under the law as any other murderers, regardless of their political persuasion. His assassination is more likely to hurt Democrats than Republicans, which leads me to strongly doubt that any even partially rational and U.S. Constitution loving Democrat or progressive was responsible.

[canpakes]

It looks like the bullets they've found, along with the firearm disposed of in a wooded area, contained coded transgender messages.

Does this mean there might be a Mormon connection?

Only if the engravings on the bullets are written in reformed Egyptian.

[ajax18]

[site link removed]

Sorry, ajax, but the board isn’t promoting websites today that encourage revenge killings of innocent people.

Probably not tomorrow, either. Or any other time.

Thank you for your understanding. -c-

Ajax,

WTF?

I didn't see where it encouraged revenge killings. I only saw it documenting people who openly celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk in a convenient collection at a single website. I saw it suggesting that these people might be fired from their jobs. But that's the same consequence culture you've been advocating for some time now. I've already posted a quote by Schmo openly calling for the extermination of MAGA Republicans and talking about how he'll celebrate when Trump and those who agree with him politically are dead. And radical left Democrat rhetoric is responsible for helping to justify and stir up these trans women to engage in mass shootings. Like many of us on the right, Charlie Kirk was not willing to agree that a man can become a woman and woman can become a man. Trans people view this opinion as erasing their existence and hence feel justified in killing anyone who doesn't agree with them. And from the website you see multiple Democrats celebrating like Schmo with slogans such as, "Rest in piss, you won't be missed Charlie Kirk." I'm not looking for revenge. Just killing this "man" who did this would not be even close to enough to satisfy me nor will it satisfy God. But I would like to document what Democrats post, what they stand for, and what their ethics are in their own words on social media.

[canpakes]

Ajax,

WTF?

I didn't see where it encouraged revenge killings. I only saw it documenting people who openly celebrated the murder of Charlie Kirk in a convenient collection at a single website. I saw it suggesting that these people might be fired from their jobs. But that's the same consequence culture you've been advocating for some time now. …

Isn’t that the problem, as usual? You didn’t “see”.

… One of the first names listed on the sites was Rachel Gilmore, an independent journalist at Bubble Pop Media who wrote on X that she was “terrified to think of how far-right fans of Kirk, aching for more violence, could very well turn this into an even more radicalizing moment. Will they now believe their fears have been proven right and feel they have a right to ‘retaliate,’ regardless of who actually was behind the initial shooting?”

As reported, this is exactly how much of the far right—along with Republican lawmakers including President Donald Turmp—did respond to the news, even though no suspect had been arrested or motive revealed.

For Gilmore, the impact of her inclusion on the website was instant and terrifying.
“This website has me genuinely afraid for my safety,” Gilmore said. “I feel awful for anyone whose name is on it. It’s clear that the purpose of the website is to do exactly what the post that landed me on there warned Kirk’s supporters might do: retaliate.”

Gilmore has received multiple death and rape threats since the site went live on Wednesday evening. (We reviewed screenshots of emails and direct messages Gilmore has received to verify the threats.) She has not reported the threats to the police yet, she says.

“I’ve gotten emails and DMs promising to find out where I live,” Gilmore says. “I have folks claiming my information is all over 4chan telling me in the same breath that they hope I get ‘raped and killed’ and telling me to ‘have fun walking the streets of’ my city, which they name.”

At the time of publication, two dozen people were listed on the site, with many entries including full names, employment details, location, and social media accounts. The site’s operators, who are anonymous, claim to have received “thousands” of submissions. “All of them will be reviewed and uploaded shortly,” a note on the website reads. “This is a permanent archive and will soon contain a search feature.”

“Most likely, we'd be happy to answer your questions,” the people controlling the website said in an email. Subsequent emails, though, went unanswered.

The website asks people to submit a potential target’s full name, location, and employer information, as well as screenshots of incriminating social media posts, via email. An About section on the website, added on Thursday morning, says: “This is not a doxxing website. This website is a lawful data aggregator of publicly-available information. It has been created for the purposes of public education.”

It continues: “We seek to collect and archive instances of individuals promoting or glorifying of political violence, much like archive.org or archive.is. We firmly denounce all political violence and criminal activity.”

Many of the allegedly incriminating posts reviewed did not glorify or promote violence. “The entire atmosphere has been stoked by conservative media and amplified by MAGA BS,” reads one Facebook post highlighted by the site.
“And the world kept spinning,” another person listed on the site wrote in a Facebook comment, under a post about Kirk’s death.

Quinn Huddleston, another name listed on the site, said that he has received “countless messages” since his name was published on the site, some urging him to take his own life. Huddleston also says that people have threatened his life, claiming to know where he lives. However, he points out that the information shared on the website was out of date and as a result the threats contained inaccurate information.

“I did not glorify anyone’s death,” says Huddleston. “I don’t believe political violence is the answer to anything on either side. They took a comment I made prior to [Kirk] even passing and now, as radicals usually do, spin it to work for their agenda, whatever that may be.”

I’m not convinced by your campaign to convince me that you’re not smart enough to know what’s going on here.

[ajax18]

I’m not convinced by your campaign to convince me that you’re not smart enough to know what’s going on here.

Go ahead and take it down then. The truth will cut it's own way.