How many rounds did Kyle Rittenhouse fire off before Rosenbaum attempted to “disarm” him?
- Doc
Well, that’s the whole problem, right? As soon as Rittenhouse aims the gun at someone, given the widespread notion of don’t aim at anything unless you intend to kill it, everyone around him likely has the legal ability to use force, including deadly force against him. If an unarmed guy chasing someone justifies use of deadly force, then it shouldn’t take much to justify use of deadly force against someone armed with a weapon designed to kill quickly and efficiently.
Flagging someone isn’t deadly force. And if you’re threatening someone and chasing someone that is armed, I don’t think being flagged, especially since KR flagged Rosenbaum before without firing on him, can justify use of force. Rosenbaum, if he felt threatened had a duty to retreat. In other words, KR wasn’t an active shooter. In fact, the only “active shooter” prior to KR firing on Rosenbaum was Ziminski.
If Rosenbaum had ‘disarmed’ KR he would’ve just been a dude who attacked a kid and stole his rifle. I don’t the notion of heroism would’ve come into play because KR wasn’t an active shooter. I suspect it just would’ve been viewed as a chaotic scene that wouldn’t have garnered much attention at all.
Certainly. He'd only be a local hero to the few people who knew about it.
Instead, he failed, we get this cluster attracting national attention, and Rosenbaum's an idiot for the attempt.
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Since everybody else on this board is either anonymous or pseudonymous, I have to say that the appearance on this not very populous board of a real attorney in a real case under discussion is a truly strange experience.
Well, at least it may increase the numbers of lurkers watching proceedings. Maybe we shall soon have the judge too? All are welcome.
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If Rosenbaum had ‘disarmed’ KR he would’ve just been a dude who attacked a kid and stole his rifle. I don’t the notion of heroism would’ve come into play because KR wasn’t an active shooter. I suspect it just would’ve been viewed as a chaotic scene that wouldn’t have garnered much attention at all.
Certainly. He'd only be a local hero to the few people who knew about it.
Wasn’t Rosenbaum from Texas? Or was he local to the Kenosha area?
eta: I think, from Googling him, it appears he was living in Kenosha. So, it appears he was a local.
- Doc
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The bottom line is if we can’t hold Rosenbaum’s prior life, choices, and statements against him we’re forced to do the same with KR. If an adult male chose to aggressively rush, threaten, reach for, or whatever to or at KR then we’re now in the moment.
I just have to say, if he had been successful at disarming KR, he'd be called a hero for stopping an active shooter, just like anyone else has been when they've done the same.
But he failed and got killed. Therefore, idiot. I guess any civilian who tries to stop a deadly situation is an idiot.
KR wasn't an active shooter.
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