Mar-A-Lago Legally Searched by FBI

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Vēritās wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 3:01 pm
Binger wrote:
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Who are you referring to?
The only moron in this thread who is "questioning the institutions" while turning a blind eye to the overt attempts to thwart our Democracy.
So, based on the thread and the data, you are referring to an imaginary bogeyman and you do not question authority or institutions that you need or like. Or, did you have someone specific in mind but did not support your claim?
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Redacted affidavit and memo are now available - reading, but I'm not seeing anything here to bolster Trump's defense. Also note that the affidavit mention National Defense Information NDI - the Espionage act is agnostic about classified/declassified - it is written around NDI.

https://www.courtlistener.com/docket/64 ... h-warrant/
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¥akaSteelhead wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 5:05 pm
I'm not seeing anything here to bolster Trump's defense.
Are you referring to the the zebra, skunk, panda or Dalmation?
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No, I am referring to the parts unredacted.
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Unrelated to the 15 boxes – There were 12 boxes of missing PAR records that NARA was requesting for almost 7 months before they were “found” by the document people at Mar-A-Lago. I don’t understand why it would take this long for NARA to finally compel the handover of these, and/or why the records team took that long to find them at Trump’s home/office.

Related to the 15 boxes -- Here are the findings from the preliminary review of their contents, as noted in the probable cause section:

184 unique docmnents[sic] bearing classification markings.
67 documents marked as CONFIDENTIAL
92 documents marked as SECRET
25 documents marked as TOP SECRET
Amongst those were also markings of “HCS, FISA, ORCON, NOFORN, and SI.”

From my Google-fu…

HCS and SI are control systems within SCI. HCS is human-gathered intelligence.
ORCON is classified national security information.
NOFORN is stuff about nuclear powered ships in the Navy.

Also, Brietbart makes an appearance as a source regarding declassification, lol.

Interesting (to me) is that there’s a section within there, outlining the proposed search procedures. One of which was that there would be a specific team involved in the office search, called the “Privilege Review Team,” which sounds like it is made up of lawyers(?) to review anything suspected of falling within the attorney-client privilege sphere. If they found something they thought fell within, they had the option to either petition a court for determination, or simply keep them inaccessible from the investigating LEOs. Any of our resident lawyers dabble in criminal law? Just curious if this is standard practice.
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NARA has been asking stuff back since May 2021. That is only 4 mos. Read what is in there again.

As to resident lawyers - I tend to follow Steve Vladeck's Twitter for analysis.
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It may be too early yet as the affidavit was just released but is anyone aware of a clear and concise timeline layed out of these events. I find that I'm often out of my depth when trying to think about these sequentially and seeing something visually is very helpful (seeing the timelines around the Muller report was a huge help to me, for instance).
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• NARA requested these missing docs on May 6, 2021 and made a bunch more requests through December, 2021. That's the first time Trump said they had 12 (not 15) boxes ready to return. (39)

• Trump sent a bunch of docs to NARA on Jan 18, 2022, but the media spotted at least TWO moving trucks at MaL that day. (30)

• NARA told FBI on Feb 9, 2022 that the stuff Trump sent back included "a lot of classified records" and that they were "unfoldered, intermixed with other records, and otherwise unproperly identified." NARA told this to Congress's Committee on Oversight too. (24, 25)

• The 15 boxes had some super, super classified stuff, some of which had Trump's handwriting on it. (47)

• Kash Patel and Trump's lawyer (Corcoran) told FBI that Trump had the power to wave his declassification wand over these documents and that he did while he was still President. Corcoran says former Presidents are legally allowed to have classified information anyway. (51, 52, Exb 1)

• On Jun 8, 2022, DOJ sent a letter to Trump's lawyer telling him, again, that he shouldn't have classified docs there and to make sure nothing happens to them, because until now, they've done a crap job of that. Trump's lawyer acknowledged this letter on June 9. (61)

• MaL's storage room, apartment, Pine Hall, and "45 Office" are NOT adequate places to store classified or national defense documents. In fact, nowhere in MaL is adequate and hasn't been since Trump left office. And based on the evidence, Trump still has stuff in multiple locations. (77, 78)

For the reasons listed above, the FBI needs to search the place.
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You're a gentleman and a scholar!
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Xenophon wrote:
Fri Aug 26, 2022 6:01 pm
It may be too early yet as the affidavit was just released but is anyone aware of a clear and concise timeline layed out of these events. I find that I'm often out of my depth when trying to think about these sequentially and seeing something visually is very helpful (seeing the timelines around the Muller report was a huge help to me, for instance).
The timeline should also be coordinated with this bombshell damnation.

Less snarky version: omissions matter. They matter a lot. The omissions may be more relevant than EVERYTHING else.

This redaction tactic is going to backfire hard. In light of Zuckerberg’s revelation yesterday and also the hit on Project Veritas the yield on political prosecution is going to go down.

This is beginning to feel like the AG, DOJ, FBI, CIA, White House and President claim that parents who go to school board meetings with a complaint are white supremacists and terrorists. The results and reactions and responses will also align similarly.
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