EAllusion wrote:DT has repeatedly implied he is in his 20’s. Others have speculated he is older and tried to read clues in his posts as “proof” of this, but I have never seen him imply he was older.
I tend to point out things he says and does that sound more like a middle aged Mormon pretending to be a young, progressive ex-Mo because they stick out so oddly in conversations. His being so out of touch with the conversation can seem like a bad undercover cop cliché. ("Hey dudes! Know where I can score some weed? I could really get high right now!") But I don't really care either way. That said, Lemmie has brought up he posted on another board under a different name giving a very different story about being both older and not a virgin, and admitting to being that poster on this board. When Lemmie brought it up he took on a, "So what if I am that person?" persona that left it out there as quite possibly true. So, it's more than just people speculating about his age.
But really, other than hoping he isn't legitimately contemplating self-harm I'm not interested in the DT dramafest. DT seems like he could use professional help no matter what aspects of his board behavior are real and what is a fabrication for sport/trolling.
The world is always full of the sound of waves..but who knows the heart of the sea, a hundred feet down? Who knows it's depth? ~ Eiji Yoshikawa
honorentheos wrote:That said, Lemmie has brought up he posted on another board under a different name giving a very different story about being both older and not a virgin, and admitting to being that poster on this board.
Lemmie has the habit of making stuff up about me. If Lemmie really has something she should send it in a private message (to protect my identity) to you and me, okay! And honestly I can prove that I am not in my 30s (I can do a skype face to face and show my ID) or just send me a private message and I will send you some links. I do have some evidence.
But I don't understand why my age matters. A 30 year old dude in YSA can be in a healthy relationship with an 18 year old girl and it doesn't automatically make it abusive. Human beings are sexual beings and you don't have be 25 years old (the average age of brain fully developing) to be in relationship. I a getting tired of all the nonsense. The problem is abuse, but dating an 18 year old doesn't automatically make the relationship abusive.
EAllusion wrote: tried to read clues in his posts as “proof” of this
Yea that can't be healthy. Our brains are really good in finding meaningless "proofs" and patterns.
sound more like a middle aged Mormon pretending
Lemmie probably spent hours reading all my history. She perfectly knows that I am not a believing Mormon anymore.
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EAllusion wrote: I have never seen him imply he was older.
So EAllusion can you please answer my question and help me understand more. If I am misreading an article please point it out to me and give me more details.
honorentheos wrote:DT seems like he could use professional help no matter what aspects of his board behavior are real and what is a fabrication for sport/trolling.
Did you know that trolls are usually sad loners?
But really, other than hoping he isn't legitimately contemplating self-harm I'm not interested in the DT dramafest.
Na. There is probably no heaven so self-harm wouldn't do any good for me.
Oh please. All I know about you is what you post. Nothing needs to be made up.
But I don't understand why my age matters. A 30 year old dude in YSA can be in a healthy relationship with an 18 year old girl and it doesn't automatically make it abusive
Ugh. Ok. DT, I’ll provide the therapy you’re unwilling to seek. Hopefully this helps you out.
You’re in a dark time of your life. When you're mid-20s (or whatever you are) and haven't enjoyed a healthy and intimate relationship, it starts to “F” with you on a scary level. Mental illnesses such as depression and anxiety seem to be prevalent these days since it's so easy to get "quick fix" social interaction through the internet. DT, the fact that you keep coming back to this thread, or attempting to start new ones with the same recurring theme is proof of this. The internet is amazing, but it doesn't make you better at actually being a social human being in real life. Nothing you type here will make you a better person, and nothing we say will do it either.
Online interactions for your social needs, like porn for your libido, twitch or Twitter or YouTube or podcasts give you someone to listen to, instant messaging gives you people to talk to, and message boards for therapy are like consuming junk food and wondering why you’re out of shape. So, it’s easy to think the only thing missing is the sexual physical touch of a woman, and if you can just get that, like you can get all this other stuff, will satisfy you. It won't of course.
Your brain, due to the Internet, has been conditioned to feel the way PornHubsters, YouTubers, Twitch Streamers, MormonDiscussioneers, whatever, interact with their audience, that’s all of us, is that of being a friend, family, or lover.
It’s not. It’s not even close. So you think if you can just get a woman it’ll be the thing that’s missing. So you come here asking us how you can get that ideal woman because she’s the thing that’ll make it better.
It won’t.
Online relationships, in whatever form, is all about charisma or you run the risk of being ostracized and forgotten when the masses move on to someone who gives them that ‘sugar rush’. For people like you, who’ve developed a skewed relationship with other people due to the Internet, this can be super harmful. You spend enough time existing on all these feeds or venues and you really do start to subconsciously believe that people are something like that.
They are not.
One second while I go outside to water my plants and compose my thoughts…
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Ok. I'm back from being outside and tending a garden.
So, what I’m getting at is you’re in a consumer-type, or transactional relationship with the Internet, and, most importantly, you’ve inadvertently developed a transactional mental relationship with other people. You’re twenty-something and haven't had meaningful relationships with women, either romantic or otherwise. The Internet has fundamentally altered your brain, and you’ve developed weird ideas about what women are.
So, as people do, you crave intimate love. But you haven't had it, and you're flummoxed as to how to get it. And because you don't know how to get it, you've started to get weird ideas about that aspect of a transactional relationship. Why? Because you can get everything else with the click of a button or a few keystrokes. Real people, people who'll be your associate, your friend, your lover, your partner, aren't transactions and they aren't codes to be hacked.
Some boys lash out at women and consider themselves as 'involuntary celibates'. Some boys put women on pedestals as weird divine trophies to be won. Some boys assume women will never like them. The longer you go without ever knowing in-person love, the easier it is to think of women as being unattainable. Where you're at right now, if I were to flip the script, is where a lot of girls are when they obsess over 'just getting married', or 'getting a boyfriend'. This is disastrous thinking because both genders want to be healthy, but they're mired in unhealthy thinking and unhealthy living.
You're unhealthy right now. In every sense of the word. You're munching on burgers and sipping on Mountain Dew watching people run a marathon, and wanting one of them to be yours. It ain't gonna happen until you start tending your own garden, friend.
So, when people here are suggesting you're creepy, or a misogynistic incel, or you have a skewed viewpoint, what they're getting at is your relationship with the Other can't even begin to be realized until you fix your crap. It all sounds so stupid and pathetic, but it's a very true reality for some unfortunate guys suffering from severe depression.
Here's some advice from a guy who has spent two decades around other men (and women) from every walk of life, has been through personal growth (and regressions and re-growth), and if you ignore it, or brush it aside, or pretend my advice was never given you'll be like another man who I offered to help, stuck alone in some crappy city, in some crappy room, living some crappy life and blaming others or yourself, and quietly spending the next four decades dying a slow death (if you don't off yourself at some point):
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
1) Your end goal isn't sex and it isn't getting a woman. . If your goal is sex, or getting a woman, you have the wrong goals. Healthy sex is a happy byproduct of a healthy, truly loving relationship. A truly loving relationship is the one you have with yourself, and once you tend your own garden, and you're a boy who becomes a man, and you base yourself in the present, then perhaps you're ready to interact with others in a good place. You're not there.
2) Take care of yourself. It all starts with diet.
- No soda.
- Drop empty carbs.
- Learn to cook real meals using basic ingredients. Develop this skill. Creating meals instead of buying them gets you out of the transactional relationship with the world. Tame your addiction to easy foods. Challenge your body.
3) Worship at the Temple of Steel. Hardcore parkour. You'll interact with the world, other brosefs, and start to understand how labor is the craft that makes you a decent person. Challenge your body.
4) Go outside. A lot. Every day. Cardio is the hall pass to centering yourself. Challenge your body.
5) Who cares if you aren't physically perfect. Be a bit overweight. Be a bit underweight. Whatever. But do this: Trim your facial hair regularly, get a fresh haircut regularly, wash your face every day, shower daily, dress well, whether it's for the gym, going outside, or just spending time in your own space. Dress, every day, like you're going to be around people who are respectable. Challenge your lazy habits.
6) Accept that humans are human, and to most people you won't be their cup of tea and that most people aren't your cup of tea. Challenge yourself to interact with in real life people on a daily basis, in just a normal manner, that isn't transactional. Just be altruistic or genuine. Develop the ability to talk, listen actively, and carry a conversation with those around you. Be aware and intuitive that some won't want to talk, and respect that.
7) Accept the fact there are double standards. Yes, it's easier for women to find a partner than it is for a man, but that's a biological reality and not a social one. Genetic or evolutionary realities have shaped each gender's relationship with the Other. Challenge yourself to Stop Giving a damn.
8) Get a hobby that doesn't involve the Internet, a computer, a television, or some other form of entertainment-based escapism. Challenge yourself to interact with people in social groups, whether it's school, a paintball team, a biking club, a nature-based club, or whatever. Go. The “F”. Outside. You're more likely to meet decent people, or ever *gasp* a girl on a hiking trail, or at school, or on a project, than in your gaming room.
9) It's okay to like porn. But I'd suggest you stop watching it. And porn can take many forms, not just people damned. Entertainment-based porn skews the mind, skews the libido, and skews the heart. Right now, I'd even go as far as challenging you to limit masturbation and take that energy and put it into lifting, running, and eating well.
10) Don't try to force yourself into a relationship. Ever. It has to be organic. When you're hot crap they'll seek you out. My wife called my ass from across the country and literally said, "Hey! I like you. We should get together." I wasn't looking for anything, but I was a man. I was a man who was doing everything I just ticked off for you above.
Kill the boy. Become a man.
- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.
Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
Doc, that was the best free advice DT will ever get. And it may be better than most of the paid advice he could get.
Hope you are well.
“The ideal subject of totalitarian rule is not the convinced Nazi or the dedicated communist, but people for whom the distinction between fact and fiction, true and false, no longer exists.”
― Hannah Arendt, The Origins of Totalitarianism, 1951
