The Fires go on

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_canpakes
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Re: The Fires go on

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Cool how you are ignorant of CA building and fire codes....and how you think a neighborhood could be destroyed by a magic ember floating for miles on the Santa Ana.

You can stop there. That’s all that is needed for you to demonstrate some significant ignorance.

You seem to believe that all structures and their grounds have been built to be magically resistant to embers because ‘codes’, except, of course, when embers set the many hundreds of structures ablaze due to their construction not meeting any stringent code or their grounds not being maintained.

Funny how such non-combustible neighborhoods can burn so completely when they’re all so resistant to embers, and with trees remaining unburned between destroyed houses after the fact.

Maybe you should opt for controlled burns inside of neighborhoods instead. Or, at least take a trip out to Cali so that you can witness first hand just how wrong your assumptions about the condition and code-compliant status of so many homes and their grounds actually are.
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Re: The Fires go on

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canpakes wrote:
Funny how such non-combustible neighborhoods can burn so completely when they’re all so resistant to embers, and with trees remaining unburned between destroyed houses after the fact.

Maybe you should opt for controlled burns inside of neighborhoods instead.


Hey, how about we ask all those other states how they stay so ember safe?
but first, can you provide a picture of one of these neighborhoods burnt down by embers with all the trees etc surviving?
or provide both, probably easy for ya, in the same post!
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Re: The Fires go on

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subgenius wrote:Hey, how about we ask all those other states how they stay so ember safe?
but first, can you provide a picture of one of these neighborhoods burnt down by embers with all the trees etc surviving?
or provide both, probably easy for ya, in the same post!
Seriously? OK, if you can't be bothered to google any such thing for yourself in the midst of your rambling, here are a few shots, below. You’ll have to do a little work for yourself and open the links to see the images:

https://www.saveeastbayhills.org/upload ... 0_orig.jpg

https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data ... medium.jpg

https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject. ... ctures-057

That last one is pretty interesting. I wonder how all of those code-compliant homes managed to burn to the ground.

And with trees still standing between them. But no forest edge in sight. Weird, ain’t it?

As for other states - I’m sure that their situation, plant types, seasonal variations, overall climate and topography are identical to California’s.
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canpakes wrote:Seriously? OK, if you can't be bothered to google any such thing for yourself in the midst of your rambling, here are a few shots, below. You’ll have to do a little work for yourself and open the links to see the images:

https://www.saveeastbayhills.org/upload ... 0_orig.jpg

https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data ... medium.jpg

https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject. ... ctures-057

That last one is pretty interesting. I wonder how all of those code-compliant homes managed to burn to the ground.

And with trees still standing between them. But no forest edge in sight. Weird, ain’t it?

As for other states - I’m sure that their situation, plant types, seasonal variations, overall climate and topography are identical to California’s.
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Obviously, the fires are just a FakeNews™ cover story to hide the fact that Mexico is dropping bombs on California specifically designed to only level houses. This was timed perfectly with the invading forces perfectly disguised as an asylum seeking caravan. WHEN WILL YOU WAKE UP, SHEEPLE!?!?


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canpakes wrote:https://www.saveeastbayhills.org/uploads/4/7/8/8/47884333/6150500_orig.jpg

The obvious solution to ^this^ one:

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Re: The Fires go on

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canpakes wrote:[quote.... You’ll have to do a little work for yourself and open the links to see the images:

https://www.saveeastbayhills.org/upload ... 0_orig.jpg

https://www.fema.gov/media-library-data ... medium.jpg

https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject. ... ctures-057

That last one is pretty interesting. I wonder how all of those code-compliant homes managed to burn to the ground.

And with trees still standing between them. But no forest edge in sight. Weird, ain’t it?

As for other states - I’m sure that their situation, plant types, seasonal variations, overall climate and topography are identical to California’s.
; )

Yeah, the hard work isn't opening the images...its the reading:


Despite clear risks, Santa Rosa neighborhood that burned down was exempt from state fire regulations

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la- ... story.html

but please, keep yourself to the easy lane....its relaxing for me, much more relaxing than California forest management policies.
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Re: The Fires go on

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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:https://www-latimes-com.cdn.ampproject. ... ctures-057

That last one is pretty interesting. I wonder how all of those code-compliant homes managed to burn to the ground.

And with trees still standing between them. But no forest edge in sight. Weird, ain’t it?

As for other states - I’m sure that their situation, plant types, seasonal variations, overall climate and topography are identical to California’s.
; )

Yeah, the hard work isn't opening the images...its the reading:


Despite clear risks, Santa Rosa neighborhood that burned down was exempt from state fire regulations

https://www.latimes.com/local/lanow/la- ... story.html

but please, keep yourself to the easy lane....its relaxing for me, much more relaxing than California forest management policies.

Again, your reading comprehension issue is showing. Here again is my comment from just a few hours ago:

Or, at least take a trip out to Cali so that you can witness first hand just how wrong your assumptions about the condition and code-compliant status of so many homes and their grounds actually are.”

So much for your claim about my supposed ignorance of Cali fire codes and their application.

And the additional point about homes burning with trees around them remaining relatively undamaged still stands.

From the article you cited:

Most likely, the fire was touched off by embers blown from a distance. Firebrands capable of igniting a house can travel more than a mile.

"When you've got firebrands going into every crook and cranny, they're going to find somewhere to start combustion," Sapsis said.

Fire experts surmise that most of the damage was caused by fire spreading from house to house, leaving some parkway trees and things like trash cans oddly unscathed.


This neighborhood was over 5 miles from a ‘danger zone’.

What new goalpost-shifting do you want to introduce next in defending your ignorant stand about Cali forest management practices ‘causing’ neighborhoods to combust?
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Re: The Fires go on

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canpakes wrote:Or, at least take a trip out to Cali so that you can witness first hand just how wrong your assumptions about the condition and code-compliant status of so many homes and their grounds actually are.”.


subgenius wrote:Despite clear risks, Santa Rosa neighborhood that burned down was exempt from state fire regulations


canpakes wrote:Or, at least take a trip out to Cali so that you can witness first hand just how wrong your assumptions about the condition and code-compliant status of so many homes and their grounds actually are.”.


subgenius wrote:Despite clear risks, Santa Rosa neighborhood that burned down was exempt from state fire regulations



I didn't move the goalposts, California management policies/practices burnt them to the ground.
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subgenius wrote:I didn't move the goalposts, California management policies/practices burnt them to the ground.


Yet you have failed to show how such a thing is possible.

Your chiding of the amorphous entity called ‘management policies/practices‘ - and your seeming belief in a nanny-state government entity being required to do prescribed burns in every possible area to protect folks who want to live near trees - is noted, as well as your refusal to believe in such things as airborne embers and the combustibility of houses. But, you started in this thread defending an inane statement by our ignorant President, and you’re committed to tying your personal identity to carrying his water, so I’d expect no less from you than to promote the same ignorant claim.
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Re: The Fires go on

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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:I didn't move the goalposts, California management policies/practices burnt them to the ground.


Yet you have failed to show how such a thing is possible.


Yeah, you are correct I did not, but the NY Times and the Journal of BioScience did show how such a thing is possible....do you need it regurgitated since there weren't enough pictures and it is mostly words?
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