What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Kevin Graham wrote:In the age of Trump, to call yourself Republican means.... pretty much...


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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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So, what does it mean to be a democrat? I think it's like being part of a union where the union bosses promise this and that and are then seen at the private corporate parties laughing it up with the corporate leaders. Then the next day at the union meeting, they try to shove some corporate friendly contract proposal on the workers, saying that the workers have to take it because we shouldn't want the business to go bankrupt, as the corporate leaders falsely claim would happen if we don't. The union leaders then try to divert attention from the economic issues by pushing identity politics, war and the specter of terrorism on us to make us forget the pocketbook issues.
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:(insert pic of Trump near black guys)


Dishonesty is sub’s thang.

whereas characterizing that pic as Trump just being "near" black guys is totes honest - thanks!
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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EAllusion wrote:Nah, I think the point ...

you are free to think whatever you like, but the pic posted is the pic posted....and for you to spew something like George Wallace has colored friends marks you once again as a self-indulging blowhard.
But hey, why listen to me...or to reason? you have got an ironclad case, so put up or shut up...prove Trump is racist.
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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subgenius wrote:
EAllusion wrote:Nah, I think the point ...

you are free to think whatever you like, ....

That was literally your point in posting that pic and labeling it as you did. And you were found out.

Just another disingenuous post from you, and now a disingenuous reply. I guess that you’re nothing if not consistent. : )
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Maybe. Then again what's important to my TBM inlaws are lower taxes, not killing future humans, religious deference, Conservative judges, legal immigration, etc. I will tell you that word on the street is that the ballooning national debt is freaking them out, but I have no idea how that'll play out in 2020 since both sides are just going for it with regard to the debt.

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What would you be called if you think you are a fiscal conservative but very likely Democrat in your soul?

I don't think I have a political identity at all.


I missed this. You’re a Blue Dog Democrat.

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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Kevin Graham wrote:In the age of Trump, to call yourself Republican means.... pretty much...


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Something tells me that you took a lot of pleasure in posting that.

I could be wrong. That's my impression.

In any case, that's a Jersey Boy in the picture. Well, technically he's a German boy who was raised in Jersey. I sincerely doubt that he's racist. I haven't seen all of his movies, but I'm pretty sure that's a role he appeared in.

We're not in a movie here. We're discussing real life. No one, including Republicans, is walking around carrying a sandwich board that says "I Hate Nigggers" on it.

Now. You might think that all Republicans are racist. I get the impression that's exactly how you think.

Then sometimes I get the impression that you don't think at all. And we all take a turn at that from time to time.

Sometimes I think you are as full of hatred as you think Republicans are.

I'm a registered Republican. Trump doesn't do my thinking for me.

Feel free to hate me all you like.
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Jersey Girl wrote:In any case, that's a Jersey Boy in the picture. Well, technically he's a German boy who was raised in Jersey. I sincerely doubt that he's racist. I haven't seen all of his movies, but I'm pretty sure that's a role he appeared in.

That's Die Hard 3. The villain in the movie made Willis's character do that in an African American part of the city, as I recall. Bruce Willis is a cop.

ETA: Kevin wasn't calling Bruce Willis a racist.
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Jersey Girl, I think it must be very tough for long-time Republicans such as you (and I think there are lots of them) to figure out how the fit into the current political landscape. When you look at the gap between the party’s rhetoric and actions during the Obama presidency with that during the Trump presidency, it’s hard to figure out what the party stands for beyond winning at all costs. Fiscal Restraint? After two years of Republican control of the presidency and both halves of the Congress, the deficit has exploded and will, by the White House’s estimate, top one trillion dollars. By the end of Trump’s first term, it will have doubled over four years? Promoting the benefits of market capitalism through free trade? Replaced by protectionist tariffs and repudiation of trade agreements. Defense of allied nations that share the values of democracy replace by pandering to repressive dictators and governments. Genuine patriotism and love of country replaced by jingoism and mindless chanting. Genuine support and appreciation for those who serve our country replaced by using them as political props to be cast aside when not useful or demonized if they don’t toe the party line.

And then to be surrounded by people full of self-righteous indignation screaming at you that if you don’t immediately change your party affiliation that you’re a racist antisemite and if you do that you’re a communist anti-Semite who hates America. (I guess we’re all anti-semites. Who knew?)

I get it.

Folks should seriously as the question of how two extremely similar tribes in Africa ended up with one dismembering the members of the others with machetes. And then they should do the homework to find out how.
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Re: What it Means to Call Yourself Republican

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Perfume on my Mind wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:In any case, that's a Jersey Boy in the picture. Well, technically he's a German boy who was raised in Jersey. I sincerely doubt that he's racist. I haven't seen all of his movies, but I'm pretty sure that's a role he appeared in.

That's Die Hard 3. The villain in the movie made Willis's character do that in an African American part of the city, as I recall. Bruce Willis is a cop.

ETA: Kevin wasn't calling Bruce Willis a racist.


Mr. Perfume. Take my hand...let's read together.

This:

In any case, that's a Jersey Boy in the picture. Well, technically he's a German boy who was raised in Jersey. I sincerely doubt that he's racist. I haven't seen all of his movies, but I'm pretty sure that's a role he appeared in.

Was followed by this:

We're not in a movie here. We're discussing real life. No one, including Republicans, is walking around carrying a sandwich board that says "I Hate Niggers" on it.

Context. Context.

I didn't think that KG was calling Willis a racist. I used the Willis image as a illustration for comparison between film industry produced fiction and acting vs in real life.

I think KG was being extreme and inflammatory. That's what I think he was doing. I in fact think he was as guilty of being inflammatory and hateful as that which he assigns to the Republican party and Trump.

He was Trumping.
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