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Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:45 am
by _Gunnar
See also: Big Oil Is Investing Billions in Renewable Energy. Here's Where and How.
Fossil fuel leaders going green
Far from being a villain, big oil is perhaps one of the most important allies for renewable energy. The world's oil supermajors generate significant levels of cash flow, boast infrastructure networks that span the globe, and have the most to lose from falling behind the technology curve. It's still early in the oil and gas industry's transition, but the largest energy companies are leaving no stone unturned in their quest for dominating clean energy supply chains.

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:49 am
by _Jersey Girl
Okay that is better. So does Trump ,who continues to promote the fuel fossil industry, not know what's going on right under his nose?

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:53 am
by _Gunnar
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:49 am
Okay that is better. So does Trump ,who continues to promote the fuel fossil industry, not know what's going on right under his nose?
Duh! Has that not long been obvious?

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:32 am
by _Jersey Girl
Gunnar wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:53 am
Jersey Girl wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 1:49 am


Okay that is better. So does Trump ,who continues to promote the fuel fossil industry, not know what's going on right under his nose?
Duh! Has that not long been obvious?
Yes, it has been obvious to me. He really has no self awareness at all because while he's pitching fossil fuels he further exposes himself as uninformed...and he's supposed to be the President. Not for long, I hope!

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 3:06 am
by _Res Ipsa
Fossil fuel companies know their days are finite. They will still wring every dollar they can out of fossil fuels as long as there’s profit in it. But they also will invest in what they think will be profitable years from now.

Fracking is close to killing off the coal industry. Natural gas for coal is a good trade in the short term. Longer term, renewables are already starting to undercut fracking. The key thing right now is not to subsidize the dirtiest, unconventional sources of oil. Tar sands, I’m looking at you.

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:14 pm
by _Gunnar
Biden is now being disparaged for stating or implying advocacy for transitioning away from fossil fuels to achieve a carbon neutral economic system, Biden’s oil slip-up gives Trump campaign hope in Pa., Texas. Some are even going so far as to suggest that he has thereby killed any hope of winning the election. Why? He has only told the truth that at least starting such a transition is not only desirable and good for the country, but will rapidly become increasingly imperative in the years to come. That this is threatening to derail his bid for the presidency only underscores the irrationality and venality of the overwhelming influence and power that the fossil fuel industry and its enormous wealth still holds over politics and public policy, particularly over conservatives.

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:15 pm
by _Some Schmo
Gunnar wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:14 pm
Biden is now being disparaged for stating or implying advocacy for transitioning away from fossil fuels to achieve a carbon neutral economic system...
They are grasping for straws.

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:18 pm
by _Gunnar
Some Schmo wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:15 pm
Gunnar wrote:
Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:14 pm
Biden is now being disparaged for stating or implying advocacy for transitioning away from fossil fuels to achieve a carbon neutral economic system...
They are grasping for straws.
Undoubtedly!

Re: A more independent government

Posted: Sat Oct 24, 2020 2:28 pm
by _Some Schmo
Apparently, more people have early voted as of yesterday than all the early votes in 2016, and most of them are Dem voters. Even if Biden screwed up royally in the debate, a good chunk of the vote's already banked.