Whoopi makes a mess

[Res Ipsa]

I don't think it was malicious, either. But I think ideas that are based in critical race theory are discussed more widely than one might think, especially given the BLM movement and protest marches during summer 2020.

Oh come on, Occam's Razor that puppy, RI.

In any case...make a case if you got one. Can you link me to an example of critical race theory that you think she might have heard this from?

I admittedly don't know much about critical race theory.

Occam's razor is a good tool for certain things. But it's biased toward a simple explanation for physical phenomena, so it's not a good tool for explaining people, whose motivations can rarely be boiled down to one simple explanation. It also applies to alternative explanations with equal explanatory power. As I said above, just google "Jewish Privilege" and Are Jews White? If Whoopi pays any attention to current social justice or racial justice discourse, she can't avoid running into the ideas that Jews are White and racism doesn't apply to things that whites do to other whites.

[Kishkumen]

Goldberg is done and likely for good.

I doubt it.

[Kishkumen]

It is also unfortunately the case that anti-Semitism thrives within certain sectors of the African American community. See Nation of Islam. See Michael Jackson using an anti-Semitic slur in one of his hit songs. Countless other examples could be brought to bear. It is this history of anti-Semitic conspiracy thinking and rhetoric among certain Black communities that made Goldberg’s statement so toxic. Whatever brand of ignorance prompted her to reason this way, and popular versions of critical race theory are certainly on that list, it is the history of anti-Semiticism in Black America that made this issue really explode.

[Father Francis]

The thing that always gets to me in these discussions is the other 5-6 million or so that were killed for reasons other than being Jewish in the death camps.

It is significant that the the Nazis wanted to eliminate the Jews, but it bothers me that nearly half the victims get little to no recognition when people talk about the Shoah

The other half or so included:

Commies (and those suspected of being commies)

POWs

Serbs

Poles

People with developmental disabilities

Romani (Gypsy is the derogatory term you might know them by)

Homosexuals, and even those accused of being so...

Let us remember the other half too. Let us also fight against the current ethic "cleansing" happening now. It's all wrong. We have different cultures, but we are one people floating on this rock somewhere in this galaxy. We're all on the same boat. I wish people would understand. I'm not a Christian, but I agree with the what Jesus said about loving your neighbor and who your neighbor is.

[Res Ipsa]

In 1967, James Baldwin wrote an essay that illustrates the complicated relationship between American blacks and American Jews during the civil rights era. https://archive.nytimes.com/www.nytimes ... .html?_r=1

[Moksha]

How many races are part of Judaism? Do they have any Bushmen adherents? If so, what would they make of Whoopi's unabashed goyishness? What about the Lemurians, Atlanteans, and Hyperboreans? I bet any Hyperboreans would have it in for Whoopi, big time!

I know FARMS had the Jews pegged as a separate race to justify the past LDS racial exclusionary policy.

Maxwell Level Bonus Race Question

Which genetic sequencing mutation allowed Reformed Jews to shed their forelocks?

[Binger]

How many races are part of Judaism? Do they have any Bushmen adherents? If so, what would they make of Whoopi's unabashed goyishness? What about the Lemurians, Atlanteans, and Hyperboreans? I bet any Hyperboreans would have it in for Whoopi, big time!

I know FARMS had the Jews pegged as a separate race to justify the past LDS racial exclusionary policy.

Maxwell Level Bonus Race Question

Which genetic sequencing mutation allowed Reformed Jews to shed their forelocks?

I am happy that you still eat mushrooms and say stupid stuff. It is cute.

Have you ever met Daniel Peterson?

[Father Francis]

How many races are part of Judaism? Do they have any Bushmen adherents? If so, what would they make of Whoopi's unabashed goyishness? What about the Lemurians, Atlanteans, and Hyperboreans? I bet any Hyperboreans would have it in for Whoopi, big time!

I know FARMS had the Jews pegged as a separate race to justify the past LDS racial exclusionary policy.

Maxwell Level Bonus Race Question

Which genetic sequencing mutation allowed Reformed Jews to shed their forelocks?

One of the weird things I've noticed since leaving the church is that they all think they're part of "The House of Israel."

[Res Ipsa]

In any case...make a case if you got one. Can you link me to an example of critical race theory that you think she might have heard this from?

I admittedly don't know much about critical race theory.

Before I do, I need to clarify a couple things. Critical Race Theory is a legal theory created by law professors starting in the mid 1970s. It's about laws and government institutions and how they can and do function to disadvantage certain racial groups even if no one intends to do so. Here is a piece written by a white law student who attended the only law school course in that state called Critical Race Theory. https://mississippitoday.org/2022/02/02 ... ce-theory/

One of her first assignments was a 1976 article by a professor at Harvard Law School named Derrick Bell, who is often credited as the founder of critical race theory.

In the article, titled “Serving Two Masters,” Bell lays the groundwork for one of his most notable arguments: By and large, school desegregation was a failure. Brown v. Board of Education, he argues, was in many ways harmful to Black communities across the country. As Black schools closed, Black teachers, principals, bus drivers and custodians lost their jobs. Bussed to white schools, Black children were more likely to be beaten, arrested, and expelled than their white peers. As a lawyer for the NAACP, Bell had sued for desegregation; in “Serving Two Masters,” he was wondering if that was the right tactic after all.

Murphree found the article astonishing. She had thought critical race theory was focused on critiquing the actions of white people, not scrutinizing the decisions and tactics of Black civil rights attorneys. She found her other readings just as surprising. Lawmakers were wrong to call critical race theory “Marxist,” she learned, because the framework was actually a rejection of legal theories that had centered class and sidelined race.

Critical Legal Theory is an analytical tool. It's a way to think about racism in the context of law and institutions.

The goal of the class is not to change minds, but to introduce students to critical race theory and how to apply it to the law, current events and issues in popular discourse, Murphree said. To that end, the class has talked about racism and how to define it, the idea of color-blindness, and the difference between equity and equality. They also learned about “interest convergence,” a core tenet of critical race theory that argues communities of color only achieve progress when white communities also benefit. Interest convergence, Jones said, helped her better understand why the Mississippi Legislature voted to change the state flag in 2020 — because “they were about to lose a lot of money with the NCAA.”

Read that sentence I bolded until it sinks in. When critical race theory is portrayed as a bogeyman, the picture you come away with is that critical race theory is about black people trying to make themselves better off by making white people worse off. That's the exact opposite of critical race theory. It looks at where black folks have made actual gains, and sees that those gains come only when they are coupled with something that makes white folks better off, too.

critical race theory has no moral dimension. It has nothing to do with oppressors and oppressed. It has nothing to do with White Supremacy. It is the legal theory of how structural racism works. And that's all it is. Like all critical theory, it is descriptive and analytical -- it does not tell us what to do about structural racism.

That's is what Critical Race Theory is. There is also Critical Sex Theory, but it's a part of Feminist theory and is treated under that umbrella. When I went to Law School, the course that taught Critical Sex Theory was called Women and the Law. And, unless you went to law school, there is no reason to know much about the theory itself. But "the legal theory that analyzes structural racism" is a pretty accurate description.

Critical Race Theory, along with other theories, was incorporated into a more general social justice movement. Where Critical Race Theory does not tell us what to do about structural racism, the social justice movement is all about taking acton. As a result, social justice advocates who base their goals on Critical Race Theory have come to be known as Critical Race Theorists. Speaking precisely, Ibram Kendi isn't a Critical Race Theorist -- he's a social justice advocate whose goals are grounded in Critical Race Theory. So, I can't give you an example of where Critical Race Theory leads to claims that white people can't be the subject of racism. That's not part of the theory at all.

So, social justice advocates take critical race theory and combine with a bunch of other stuff and then advocate for solutions. And the way each describes the problem and the solutions they advocate for varies widely. And when you move from the advocacy to the application of proposed solutions, the spectrum becomes even wider. What politicians who are using critical race theory as a wedge issue are doing is cherry picking extreme examples of statements by social justice advocate and poorly designed diversity workplace and school programs. Then they are using those to try to shut down even talking about race in schools.

I did stumble on piece today that illustrates how critical race theory can be applied to current problems without all the things that get added onto it by various folks in the social justice movement. It's about the current controversy over black coaches: https://newsletters.theatlantic.com/the ... imination/ Most folks wouldn't recognize it as an example of critical race theory, because the idea of structural racism is something most folks understand and aren't threatened by.

Examples of applications of critical race theory within the broader social justice movement look like this, which is described in a column in the Washington Post. https://www.washingtonpost.com/news/vol ... ual-decay/ It quotes a Facebook post made by a Jewish student at Oberlin College, which one expects is composed of students who have been taught about the holocaust.

She starts:

I don’t want to make it seem like i hated my time at oberlin. it was a mixed bag and i got a great education and was blessed to learn from amazing professors. But i think being out of that environment has given me a chance to breathe and process everything that i learned/ encountered/ unlearned at oberlin. i learned about the historical context of anti black racism and its current manifestations and through that learning process was able to better frame and identify my own community’s struggle. However i quickly learned that process was to be kept personal and did not blend into the campus atmosphere or the collective fight for justice at oberlin. Because at oberlin, and indeed in the US overall, Jews are viewed as white and privileged (sometimes even above the avg white privilege, since yaknow, were all superrich and stuff) therefore our struggle does not intersect with other forms of racism and bigotry and ignorance that are so tenaciously fought against on campus. As a part of my processing and letting go of the pain I experienced, I will list a few memorable antisemitic moments/incidents here-

What is the first anti-semitic moment she lists?

1. The multiple times the Holocaust was referred to as “white on white crime” by my POC peers and hip white Jewish peers, (erasing the fact that ashkenazi jews were NOT seen as white and were being killed in the name of eugenics and white purity and also erasing the fact that blacks, Roma, and north african Jews were also killed in the camps.)

Sound familiar?

And number 2?

2. That time a Jewish person made a comment on Facebook saying “the only reason people care about the Holocaust is because it happened to white people” and got tons of likes from white and POC friends alike (Erasing the fact that the western world only decided to care a few decades after the fact, when it wasn't as fresh, and theyd had the time to really work out the details of how they were going to frame it and make it look like the US were the heroes liberating the camps after the US government knew what was being planned by Hitler, knew waht happening while it was happening, and did nothing. Not to mention sending Jewish immigrants trying to escape before the war broke out back to Europe to die in the gas chambers.) This is just one example of Jewish obies stepping all over their ancestors memory in order to climb the white-ally-social-ladder-of-justice-and-excellence i cannot understand it as anything other than self hatred masked by love of “the other”..

And her last.

18. Having my own ethnic identity policed. Being told I was simply European and Judaism is a religion not an ethnicity/ or that I am a descendent of Khazarian converts to Judaism and therefore have no right to claim any sort of indigenousness in the Levant. (There is DNA evidence that the VAST MAJORITY of Jews have Middle Eastern genetic markers (yep even us whities) they can even tell what time period we originated there and started mixing with other populations and it lines up with our own historical narrative yet somehow anti-Jewish polemics still get the mic)
Wow, 18. Chai. Life. WOOSH. That felt great to put it all out there. Also please know that I am not tryin to generalize any specific community at oberlin for antisemitism. It is a complex form of institutional “othering” that is upheld by everyone who is not Jewish.. it manifests on racial grounds, cultural grounds, religious grounds, etc. And it kills, it doesn't just hurt.

None of what she describes is critical race theory. But it comes from social justice theories grounded in critical race theory. None of that extra baggage is necessary to address structural racism. And I don't think that addressing structural racism requires making anyone experience what this student at an elite U.S. College experienced.

[ajax18]

Goldberg is done and likely for good.

I doubt it.

Karen Johnson would be done if she were a conservative. Compare what she said and how emphatically she said it with a tweet by Gina Carrano, who disney immediately fired/cancelled. The double standard proves that cancel culture is just a weapon used by the left when it suits their purposes. The only reason they suspended Karen was to protect her from having to answer questions about her view that people with a Jewish skin tone cannot be victims of racism, nor can Muslims with a darker skin tone than be guilty of antisemitism against Jews.

It's kind of interesting that the mainstream media is using the fact that Karen Johnson chose a Jewish surname proves that she is not racist against Jews. I wish the same standard had applied to My Washington Redskins.