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ajax18 wrote:
Sun Mar 02, 2025 2:55 pm
If anyone had mentioned millions in condoms going to Mozambique, million to Guatemala for gender reaffirming care, millions to Ireland for DEI indoctrination in the workplace a year ago, you'd have been kicked off what was once Twitter, and likely incarcerated for disseminating disinformation, which means true information that the left wants to keep secret.
I respect your ability to consistently throw your support behind the liars and the grifters, as demonstrated by your lionization of Bannon after he ripped off MAGA supporters, and now in believing in this new lie.

You would not have been incarcerated for talking about USAID programs, because - for the most part - many of these things that you claim were secret leftist programs were actually openly advertised in plain sight on the USAID website. An example is the claimed millions for ‘transgender support’ in Tanzania that was really only about supporting women’s and children’s financial and health issues in that country:

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The image quality is poor because this is a snapshot of the webpage from a couple of weeks ago. This page itself was taken down after Musk bitched about the program. Try looking for any government-hosted link with details about this aid effort. Good luck; Google will still point you to where it used to be, but you’ll find nothing there.

In other words, the entity hiding information on this spending is the Trump Administration, and probably because they don’t want folks to see that their claims about the program were distorted or untrue.

Ironically, Musk has even gutted W-GDP, which was sponsored and promoted by Ivanka Trump 6 years ago, and pushed by Donnie himself as a worthy program. Oops. Time to push that one down the memory hole now, too.

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Once again, you’re in full support of the actual bad actors.
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No Trump person is standing up for your rights. They are standing up for authoritarianism, oligarchy, and greater wealth for the super-wealthy. You are fool enough not to grasp that. You swallow the lies.
The only authoritarians I see are the Democratic socialist who are butthurt right now that the American people have said, "No, no you don't get to tax and bring us down into debt slavery, ad infinitum. No you don't get to leave our borders open and give away the country, yes our country! No, you don't get anything for free, because whether you think it should be or not, nothing is free! Leftist might make great poets and lawyers, but they make very poor soldiers and even worse engineers.
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Rather than sending our tax dollars to Tanzania, shouldn't those dollars have been used to pay down the deficit?
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 am
Rather than sending our tax dollars to Tanzania, shouldn't those dollars have been used to pay down the deficit?
That makes too much sense and Putin somehow is behind that thinking. So, let's stop with the rational decision making before Putin controls us all.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:00 am
No Trump person is standing up for your rights. They are standing up for authoritarianism, oligarchy, and greater wealth for the super-wealthy. You are fool enough not to grasp that. You swallow the lies.
The only authoritarians I see are the Democratic socialist who are butthurt right now that the American people have said, "No, no you don't get to tax and bring us down into debt slavery, ad infinitum. No you don't get to leave our borders open and give away the country, yes our country! No, you don't get anything for free, because whether you think it should be or not, nothing is free! Leftist might make great poets and lawyers, but they make very poor soldiers and even worse engineers.
Where on earth does the idea come from that 'leftists think that they can get things for free'? For a start, in the leftist movements of the 20th century, much stress was laid on pointing out that the large group of people who work hard for wages do the essential work of producing stuff, but for some reason a much smaller group get huge rewards for working a lot less hard, and saying that this ought to stop. Both the Russian and the Chinese communist revolutions made this claim very strongly.

Please note that I am not a communist, and I am not making any claim that these revolutions were good things. But if you don't like leftists, opposing them by attributing stupid and distorted positions to them such as 'everything should be free' is no more than the straw-man fallacy in action.

This Soviet poster shows the worker refusing food to idlers, with the words "Whoever does not work shall not eat". I would have though Ajax would like that ...

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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 am
Rather than sending our tax dollars to Tanzania, shouldn't those dollars have been used to pay down the deficit?
We can say that about anything, like defense budgets, cancer research, school lunch programs or Social Security, if merely paying down the deficit is the goal.
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ajax18 wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 4:00 am
The only authoritarians I see are the Democratic socialist who are butthurt right now that the American people have said, "No, no you don't get to tax and bring us down into debt slavery, ad infinitum.
That's cute, given that Trump's tariffs are the biggest tax increase on the American people in decades (the only other tax increase that's comparable would be his last tariff tantrum). Toss on that in our almost 250 years history, over 1/4 of our debt was accrued in just 4 years while Trump was President, and your post starts to get really confusing.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Wed Mar 05, 2025 10:40 am
Rather than sending our tax dollars to Tanzania, shouldn't those dollars have been used to pay down the deficit?
Which party really showed some interest in paying down the deficit?
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Not the party that is suggested 7 trillion in new deficit spending in the short term.

From the study I linked
Abstract
Evidence is reviewed that national economic performance generally has been better under Democrat presidents. It is likely, but not necessarily true, however, that better economic performance is related to greater fiscal responsibility. A brief history of federal budget deficits and the gross federal debt for the last seven decades is followed by discussion of why federal budget deficits matter. A simple model is estimated where the shares of federal budget deficits in gross domestic products over the 72-year period from 1950 to 2021 are regressed on the civilian unemployment rate, indicating the state of the economy, and controlling for whether a Democrat or Republican is president and for years the U.S. was engaged in war. An Index of Fiscal Discipline is then regressed on the growth rate in real gross domestic product, again controlling for the party in the White House and war years. The results show that Democrat presidents have been significantly more fiscally responsible.
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