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Moksha wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:44 am
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Remember the tale of the boy who cried wolf? If so, what lesson does it teach?
That if the wolf snarles too much, it can permanently transform into a curmudgeon.
Wrong.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:52 am
Moksha wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 9:44 am
That if the wolf snarles too much, it can permanently transform into a curmudgeon.
Wrong.
Here’s a useful link about the claim, and whatever Trump was trying to say.

https://www.snopes.com/news/2025/04/09/ ... 1744244878
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:58 am
Your link doesn't work, so I'm guessing this is just another made-up story by you, . . . right?
He is not making it up, he is just parroting non-sense with drive by, baseless, assertions by others making it up. You can say what ever you want about Trump, and much deserved as with all leaders, but his trying to force what Trump actually said in context, into what he read and ran with is just nonsense. Trump was talking about German folks like Oskar Schindler, Duckwitz, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and scores and scores and scores of other Germans that helped Jews in Germany and in other occupied countries.

Did any Palestinians, or Hamas members try to help the hostages, I don't know, and if they did, then Trump was wrong and you can criticize that if true.

https://youtu.be/P3uOBiv7R8Q?t=1531 (In context)
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Markk wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 3:41 pm
Dr. Shades wrote:
Sun Apr 13, 2025 8:58 am
Your link doesn't work, so I'm guessing this is just another made-up story by you, . . . right?
Trump was talking about German folks like Oskar Schindler, Duckwitz, Dietrich Bonhoeffer, and scores and scores and scores of other Germans that helped Jews in Germany and in other occupied countries.
Ahh, I see. After reviewing canpakes' link, that makes much more sense.
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There is a reason why it is important to have leaders who speak with some adroitness and care. You don't end up scratching your head wondering what the hell the person is talking about and worrying that it *could* mean the worst of the options.

Stories like this one are a distraction. The real news and real worry is that he will start sending his detractors to a Salvadorian prison. He is actively trying to make that happen. In other words, kiss effective citizenship and constitutional rights goodbye. Trump is after your constitutional rights, and the other branches of government are doing too little to stop him.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 12:16 pm
Stories like this one are a distraction. The real news and real worry is that he will start sending his detractors to a Salvadorian prison. He is actively trying to make that happen. In other words, kiss effective citizenship and constitutional rights goodbye. Trump is after your constitutional rights, and the other branches of government are doing too little to stop him.
A few weeks from today:

“Oops. We sent a citizen that we just happen to not like, off to an El Salvadoran prison, and now we don’t know where they are. Oh, well.”

As you’re saying, it’s hard to not see where this is going. Who or what will correct this when it happens?

Elsewhere on the board we have someone droning on about the supposed evils of DEI, for some reason that they can’t even define. This threat from Trump of ‘accidental deportation’ would seem to be a bit more urgent. Distractions abound.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 1:54 pm
A few weeks from today:

“Oops. We sent a citizen that we just happen to not like, off to an El Salvadoran prison, and now we don’t know where they are. Oh, well.”

As you’re saying, it’s hard to not see where this is going. Who or what will correct this when it happens?

Elsewhere on the board we have someone droning on about the supposed evils of DEI, for some reason that they can’t even define. This threat from Trump of ‘accidental deportation’ would seem to be a bit more urgent. Distractions abound.
Today the leader of El Salvador essentially refused to return Garcia. So there we are, the Supreme Court is ineffectual, because Trump will just ask his buddy the tyrant of El Salvador to refuse to do what the Supreme Court demands, so that Trump himself can do an end run around the Supreme Court.
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https://x.com/JonLemire/status/1911825703458279801

This is a link to the video in which Trump tells the leader of El Salvador he wants to send US citizens to Salvadorian prisons. He says tells Bukele he needs to build five more prisons to do what Trump wants to accomplish.

If you don't find that horrifying, you are beyond help.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:37 pm
This is a link to the video in which Trump tells the leader of El Salvador he wants to send US citizens to Salvadorian prisons.
Good thing that link worked, or Shades may have become apoplectic.
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Kishkumen wrote:
Mon Apr 14, 2025 6:37 pm
https://x.com/JonLemire/status/1911825703458279801

This is a link to the video in which Trump tells the leader of El Salvador he wants to send US citizens to Salvadorian prisons. He says tells Bukele he needs to build five more prisons to do what Trump wants to accomplish.

If you don't find that horrifying, you are beyond help.
I, for one, am horrified. The fact that Trump advocates sending even U.S. citizens, possibly even U.S. born citizens, to an El Salvadoran (or any other foreign prison, for that matter) adds to the horror. If this is not a blatant violation of the Constitution, what is? This alone ought to be grounds for impeachment!
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