Election Litigation Status

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subs wrote: If you won't admit that much then you can understand how i an easily dismissing your refusal to even consider the facts before you determine what they may be evidence of.
I'm open to considering the facts, although I'm not open to "the facts" being dumped on me as an anonymous glob of God knows what, that may take days to work through. If you have moderate familiarity with the documents, which I consider requisite to affirming what the documents intend, then you can write a couple paragraphs summarizing an example of the facts presented in your repository and link to an image of the document summarized. Res Ipsa does hundreds of times the work you are requested to do; you are not being asked to do something anybody here (save Ajax or faqs) wouldn't do themselves. If that's still too much for you, then link to the Res Ipsa GOP equivalent who has analyzed your materials on their blog.

To understand why the court of reason has rejected your claims to evidence in the past, recall that you presented two studies from alleged data scientists that show anomalies. If you knew anything about data science, then you'd know it's a far cry to suggest something is an anomaly and something is evidence for a theory. I get that the authors were likely themselves Trump supporters, and likely just fine if not hoping that innuendo would follow, but that's not the same as putting their professional reputations on the line and asserting the anomaly as evidence for fraud. For one, a reasonable theory regarding the fraud would need to follow, which could make them look like idiots really fast.

As Canpakes has said, it doesn't appear that you yourself believe that there was fraud. Ajax doesn't either, in fact, he posted as if Trump had lost and how sad that was, until it sunk in that he's supposed to baselessly join the chorus and cry, "Fraud! Fraud!" in the hopes that if enough people say it, it will make for a revolution.

You don't believe there was fraud. What you believe is there is the possibility of fraud, and that the burden of proof is on everyone else to rigorously prove that there wasn't, and until then, Trump should be consider the winner. Or to really get to the heart of it: Trump should just be considered the winner, no matter what.

Do you believe the reports of the Scytl servers changing Trump votes to Biden votes is evidence of fraud? You won't answer that because it puts you in a fork: If you say "yes", then you must admit partiality to a conspiracy that even NewsMax has firmly rejected. If you say "no", then you must explain why the witnesses to the FBI raid are less valid as evidence than the witnesses to "vans of fake Biden votes", which you can't do.
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:08 am

So, besides the
- video footage
- voice recordings
- data analysis
- statistical anomalies
- statistical impossibilities
- whistleblowers
- eyewitnesses
- affidavits

is there any evidence ?
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subs,

Do you believe the reports of the Scytl servers changing Trump votes to Biden votes is evidence of fraud?
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None of the items on your list are evidence of fraud without more context.

Is a picture of a blood stain on a knife evidence of murder, just because somebody uploads a .jpg and claims it is?

Would you be willing to call out which of the items on your list you personally believe indicate fraud "beyond reasonable doubt"? (we can't even get you to write a paragraph summarizing even the best contents from your link)
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As long as donations keep coming in, can Trump continue to file suit after suit?
Yes. But the judges could start sanctioning him for double the amount of donations.
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:58 am
None of the items on your list are evidence of fraud without more context.

Is a picture of a blood stain on a knife evidence of murder, just because somebody uploads a .jpg and claims it is?
It isn’t even that convincing:

- video footage of folks moving ballot bins around in normal processing,
- voice recordings of folks alleging that they think that they saw ‘something’, like a dumpster somewhere with trash actually in it,
- data analysis poorly committed, by biased individuals looking for any reason to disbelieve reality,
- statistical anomalies that aren’t anomalies when assessing actual conditions,
- statistical impossibilities that aren’t even remotely ‘impossible’,
- whistleblowers that don't know what they saw or why it was not an issue,
- eyewitnesses of things that were normal,
- affidavits by folks asserting unprovable allegations or outright falsehoods.

Just as how COVID was supposedly an effort by the whole world to pretend that there was a disease that was killing thousands just so that everyone everywhere could make Trump look bad, here again is a massive conspiracy by more than 7 million voters, all of the election workers, the DOJ, the CIA, two dozen State Attorneys General, dozens of State judges (including Trump appointees), and the US Supreme Court.

And all this is promoted by prideful sore losers lacking the emotional maturity to deal with the fact that more folks than not rightly saw Trump for the juvenile dick that he is.

There’s a reason why subs just points to someone else’s lists of crap without daring to speak about the ‘details’ of those lists himself. He knows that it’s all bullshyte.
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- statistical impossibilities that aren’t even remotely ‘impossible’,

I think we're being generous to even let him say that.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:22 am
There’s a reason why subs just points to someone else’s lists of crap without daring to speak about the ‘details’ of those lists himself. He knows that it’s all bullshyte.
I'm sure he realizes that he is just being a troll too!
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 3:22 am
Just as how COVID was supposedly an effort by the whole world to pretend that there was a disease that was killing thousands just so that everyone everywhere could make Trump look bad, here again is a massive conspiracy by more than 7 million voters, all of the election workers, the DOJ, the CIA, two dozen State Attorneys General, dozens of State judges (including Trump appointees), and the US Supreme Court.
That just about sums it up. It is massively improbable that such a conspiracy could be conceived, launched and successfully executed - including, be it noted, several eminent officials and judges appointed by Trump himself. And NOBODY involved in this conspiracy has ever changed their mind, repented and made a public admission? None of those eminent officials or judge has ever come out and said "I was approached by the conspirators and firmly rejected their wicked plan"? Not a single one? They all just caved and joined in the wicked Stop Trump plan? Pull the other leg - it's got bells on it.

It is much, much more likely that Trump simply lost the election and is prepared to spout endless lies to save himself from the shame of being a loser., and make as much money as he can to get himself through the lean times ahead.

I mean, that is just his normal way of reacting to any challenge - isn't it?
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Gadianton wrote:
Mon Dec 14, 2020 2:08 am
subs wrote: If you won't admit that much then you can understand how i an easily dismissing your refusal to even consider the facts before you determine what they may be evidence of.
I'm open to considering the facts, although I'm not open to "the facts" being dumped on me as an anonymous glob of God knows what, that may take days to work through. If you have moderate familiarity with the documents, which I consider requisite to affirming what the documents intend, then you can write a couple paragraphs summarizing an example of the facts presented in your repository and link to an image of the document summarized. Res Ipsa does hundreds of times the work you are requested to do; you are not being asked to do something anybody here (save Ajax or faqs) wouldn't do themselves. If that's still too much for you, then link to the Res Ipsa GOP equivalent who has analyzed your materials on their blog.

To understand why the court of reason has rejected your claims to evidence in the past, recall that you presented two studies from alleged data scientists that show anomalies. If you knew anything about data science, then you'd know it's a far cry to suggest something is an anomaly and something is evidence for a theory. I get that the authors were likely themselves Trump supporters, and likely just fine if not hoping that innuendo would follow, but that's not the same as putting their professional reputations on the line and asserting the anomaly as evidence for fraud. For one, a reasonable theory regarding the fraud would need to follow, which could make them look like idiots really fast.

As Canpakes has said, it doesn't appear that you yourself believe that there was fraud. Ajax doesn't either, in fact, he posted as if Trump had lost and how sad that was, the jenius sucks so much mushroom cock his mouth begins to salivate in hungry anticipation whenever the fox news intro flashes across his screen. Only when his domination is complete as Trump pushes the jenius’ face into the pillow with his meaty forearm does the jeius know glorious release, until it sunk in that he's supposed to baselessly join the chorus and cry, "Fraud! Fraud!" in the hopes that if enough people say it, it will make for a revolution.

You don't believe there was fraud. What you believe is there is the possibility of fraud, and that the burden of proof is on everyone else to rigorously prove that there wasn't, and until then, Trump should be consider the winner. Or to really get to the heart of it: Trump should just be considered the winner, no matter what.

Do you believe the reports of the Scytl servers changing Trump votes to Biden votes is evidence of fraud? You won't answer that because it puts you in a fork: If you say "yes", then you must admit partiality to a conspiracy that even NewsMax has firmly rejected. If you say "no", then you must explain why the witnesses to the FBI raid are less valid as evidence than the witnesses to "vans of fake Biden votes", which you can't do.
It’s a sad, sad fact that the jenius, at best, skimmed over this quickly, picked out a few key words, and then took a giant crap on this post as evidenced by his response. He treats a DISCUSSION forum like the comments section at the Gateway Pundit. -25 points from Slytherin. *Dumbledore points wand at the jenius, “Lactus filius irrumatus fungilius!”

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