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[_honorentheos]

"Half of all women are not attractive".

Wut?

By "not attractive" I mean women that had a lot of sexual partners. Almost 50% of women over 25 had at least 5 sexual partners. I really don't want to be the 4th or 5th guy. It is okay if I am the 2nd guy, but more than that is just scary.

So it's not a study that says 50% of women are objectively unattractive. Your OP is not named well.

[Guest]

isn't the same as saying a person would or would not be sexually satisfied by a particular lover at a particular time.

Thanks for sharing your opinion. You are right, I guess it all depends on the person.

Satisfaction? What does that mean to you, DT?

I would say it is pleasure and happiness.

So it's not a study that says 50% of women are objectively unattractive. Your OP is not named well.

It is just my opinion after looking at three studies. Here are the numbers. https://www.ncbi.nlm.nih.gov/pmc/articles/PMC5795598/

[_honorentheos]

I highly doubt you, yourself, would be satisfied under your definition in any relationship for very long.

Also, you should rename your OP.

[_Lemmie]

It’s bad enough that you are STILL creepy as “F” when you talk about women on this board, but somehow, your insistence on continuing to mangle the facts and statistics of your citations as you come up with these bizarre conclusions is even worse.

The most obvious issue is your conclusion that since almost 50% of Women “aged above 24” have had 5 or more partners”, this translates to half of ALL women not being attractive! Even if your stat was supported by your links -WHICH IT IS NOT- how do you conclude that a statistic about half of one age group equates to half of all women?

Plus, you follow your first sentence with a quote unrelated to it, and then a link. Where is the information on your first sentence supported? Not in any of your links, that’s for sure. Your other conclusions based on statistics Just get worse.

But back to your creepiness. You are on a board read by men and women, and you title a post “half of all women are not attractive,” because you are fixated on virgins aged 18-22, and consider all other women “unattractive.” Good grief. Stick to political topics. When you talk about women, you come across as an obnoxious and extremely creepy pig. Still.

[Guest]

on virgins aged 18-22

Not true! I said, "It is okay if I am the 2nd guy. I wouldn't have a problem dating a woman that only had one sex partner, her ex-husband for example.

Where is the information on your first sentence supported?

Okay let me go back, I am talking about women 25 to 29 years old . 75% had 2 or more partners and 45% had 5 or more partners. Just carefully look at the graph and follow the calculation. Do 100% - (25% + 30%). So 45% of women (ages 25 to 29) had 5 or more partners. For all women it is honestly way more than half. I just don't find that attractive and most guys with an LDS tradition would agree.

with a quote unrelated to it, and then a link. Where is the information on your first sentence supported?

But it is a concern, "researchers have found that men and women with more lifetime sexual partners are actually less sexually satisfied (Fisher et al., 2015; Heiman et al., 2011)." I understand there are many interpretations, but do you deny it? I don't want to be in a relationship with a woman that had more than 4 sex partners, it is not sexy!

Lemmie I would really appreciate if you STOP LYING. Saying the word CREEPY is only a distraction so others won't read what I am actually saying.

[Guest]

To repeat. Lemmie I would really appreciate if you STOP LYING. Saying the word CREEPY is only a distraction so others won't read what I am actually saying. I am not "fixated on virgins aged 18-22". To repeat I wouldn't have a problem dating a woman that was divorced.

[_Doctor CamNC4Me]

Nah, man. Your posting history fixating on women’s sexual attractiveness to you is creepy as “F”. It’s almost as if it’s a compulsion or humiliation fetish.

- Doc

[_Lemmie]

Here’s why you are still a creep:

In a thread titled:

“Half of all women are not attractive (let me explain)”

You are now saying this:

Okay let me go back, I am talking about women 25 to 29 years old .

So because half of all women are not “attractive” by your bizarre standards, you are using that to try to justify your creepy fixation on young girls who are virgins?

Also, your first Statement and quote are followed by an article with this title:

Why Some Couples Have More — and Better — Sex
Find out which factors are associated with more satisfying sexual experiences.

Which has nothing to do with your premise.

Your quote from that link is followed by this statement:

Researchers suggest that individuals who continually pursue new partners may be seeking not more sex, but more satisfying sex (Heiman et al., 2011).

Which has nothing to do with your conclusion:

If I have a relationship with a woman over 24 there is a good chance that I won't satisfy her according to the statistics (if Fisher and Heiman are right).

They are right, your interpretation is wrong.

There is nothing wrong with how I feel and many on the board agree.

Absolutely untrue. Don’t sully this board with statements like that.

It is not like if I have the freedom to choose what I find attractive. There is overwhelming evidence that humans do not choose their feelings.

No one is talking about your feelings. Your actions -posting as you do on this board about women- are creepy.

And finally, you are again talking about women as though they were a commodity and you have the right to pick and choose the attributes you want. You are offensively and obnoxiously associating a women’s history, virginity, and youth with some weird idea of attractiveness.

That is CREEPY. Stop talking about women this way. It is offensive and gross.

Not only that did you forget Dr Shades’ moderator request to you?

MODERATOR NOTE: DoubtingThomas, please post any and all, uh, posts regarding your dating life and / or relationship woes in this thread only instead of starting a new thread. Please also do likewise with any posts regarding male / female dynamics in general.

Thanks in advance.]

http://mormondiscussions.com/viewtopic. ... 3#p1203023

Here’s the link, please keep your creepiness in check there:

http://mormondiscussions.com/viewtopic. ... &start=693

[_DoubtingThomas]

Your posting history fixating on women’s sexual attractiveness to you is creepy as ____. It’s almost as if it’s a compulsion or humiliation fetish

But that is not true and others on this board know it is not true. Honestly this is the only board I participate in, haven't made comments online somewhere else in a very long time.What I am saying is that women that had more than 4 sex partners are not attractive. That is all I am saying. That is my opinion and the opinion of most men. That is why "Nearly one in three Americans have lied to their partner about their sexual history"

[Guest]

Half of all women are not attractive (let me explain)”
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You are now saying this:

Okay let me go back, I am talking about women 25 to 29 years old .

Honestly more than half of all women had more than 4 sexual partners. But it is true that 45% (ages 25 to 29) had more 5 or more partners.

So because half of all women are not “attractive” by your bizarre standards, you are using that to try to justify your creepy fixation on young girls who are virgins?

Did you not read what I just said? That is just so wrong.

on virgins aged 18-22

I said, "It is okay if I am the 2nd guy, but more than that is just scary." Because, "researchers have found that men and women with more lifetime sexual partners are actually less sexually satisfied (Fisher et al., 2015; Heiman et al., 2011)." And because I don't want to worry about STDs.

There is nothing wrong with how I feel and many on the board agree. It is not like if I have the freedom to choose what I find attractive. There is overwhelming evidence that humans do not choose their feelings. It is mostly in the DNA and the brain. I wish you had my DNA.

So even if I only wanted "virgins aged 18-22" (but that is not true) there is nothing that can be done about it, the best psychologist in the world wouldn't be able to change my feelings. Ask the LGBT community. But again that is not the case with me, I wouldn't have a problem dating a woman that only had one sex partner, her ex-husband for e