The First Plastic First Family

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Res Ipsa wrote:I don't think that what's in Kevin's heart is that important. What's important are the words he typed out and posted.

He thinks he gets a pass because he voted for a woman. Kind of like being "saved," right? But that's not how it works. Those assumptions and "harsh" judgments he is making are, in fact, appealing to misogynist stereotypes: bimbo, stepford wife, trophy wife. If he doesn't want to promote misogyny, he should knock that crap off.

Or, in PC terms, he should check his male privilege.


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Res Ipsa wrote:I don't think that what's in Kevin's heart is that important. What's important are the words he typed out and posted.

He thinks he gets a pass because he voted for a woman. Kind of like being "saved," right? But that's not how it works. Those assumptions and "harsh" judgments he is making are, in fact, appealing to misogynist stereotypes: bimbo, stepford wife, trophy wife. If he doesn't want to promote misogyny, he should knock that crap off.

Or, in PC terms, he should check his male privilege.

Yes. Fair enough.
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And she deserves it because of choices she's made? Really? Sounds too much like "she deserved to get raped because she chose to wear slutty clothes."


Oh ok, so you're going to be one of those kinds of idiots.
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Res Ipsa wrote:I don't think that what's in Kevin's heart is that important. What's important are the words he typed out and posted.

He thinks he gets a pass because he voted for a woman. Kind of like being "saved," right? But that's not how it works. Those assumptions and "harsh" judgments he is making are, in fact, appealing to misogynist stereotypes: bimbo, stepford wife, trophy wife. If he doesn't want to promote misogyny, he should knock that **** off.

Or, in PC terms, he should check his male privilege.


Don't be upset with me just because I know what the word actually means. I get a pass from your stupidity because words have meaning. The word wasn't created so people could use it whenever a person who happens to be a woman is rightfully criticized. If she were a man married to a female President who did all of the above I'd be equally critical. That isn't "promoting" misogyny it is promoting common sense and a single standard.
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MissTish wrote:
Jersey Girl wrote:You know what we call a guy who superficially devalues or elevates a woman by critiquing her looks like she's an object?

Mr. President :wink:

by the way, I believe this comment deserves repeating.
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Maxine Waters wrote:
She isn't particularly intelligent


She only speaks five languages.


But cannot express a single original thought in any of them.

I'm fluent in three and can get around in a fourth and I'm not particularly bright. Some of the dumbest people I know are multi-lingual. But what I'm more concerned about is the unprecedented example she sets for the children of America. If you're unsure of yourself, even if you're already attractive, just dodge your education and focus on outer beauty so you can land a sugar daddy who was seven years into his first marriage on the day you were born. Making America great again!
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She is not only the quintessential Stepford wife but a perfect exactly of what white privilege is all about.


A slavic immigrant is your idea of white privilege? I guess that makes sense now that I consider what a backward idea white privilege really is.
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This liberal would be about socializing ... uh, umm. ... Would be about, basically, taking over, and the government running all of your companies.
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Some Schmo wrote:by the way, I believe this comment deserves repeating.


I get a kick out of the way people online lately have been freaking the hell out if I say anything about Melania, yet they go silent when Trump's sexual assault of women gets brought up. Yes, clearly I'm the bigger devil here.
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Kevin Graham wrote:If she were a man married to a female President who did all of the above I'd be equally critical. That isn't "promoting" misogyny it is promoting common sense and a single standard.

Hey man, this is kind of where I thought you were coming from all along. But RI has a point.

I had to laugh at myself after reading RI's response. Thing is, I totally consider Majax a racist based on what he writes online. I can easily judge him that way because I have no interest in understanding where he's coming from, because I think he's irreversibly dumb. Is he really a racist in his heart? Who knows? Does it matter if what he posts spreads racist sentiment?

But because I largely agree with many of your positions (and am familiar with your posting history), I found myself trying to better understand your motivation for posting, rather than acknowledging that, although I believe I understand the points you were trying to make, I think you could have chosen your words differently and conveyed the same basic thoughts without people going off with accusations of misogyny.

But ya know... what the “F” do I know?
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Kevin Graham wrote:
Res Ipsa wrote:I don't think that what's in Kevin's heart is that important. What's important are the words he typed out and posted.

He thinks he gets a pass because he voted for a woman. Kind of like being "saved," right? But that's not how it works. Those assumptions and "harsh" judgments he is making are, in fact, appealing to misogynist stereotypes: bimbo, stepford wife, trophy wife. If he doesn't want to promote misogyny, he should knock that **** off.

Or, in PC terms, he should check his male privilege.


Don't be upset with me just because I know what the word actually means. I get a pass from your stupidity because words have meaning. The word wasn't created so people could use it whenever a person who happens to be a woman is rightfully criticized. If she were a man married to a female President who did all of the above I'd be equally critical. That isn't "promoting" misogyny it is promoting common sense and a single standard.


I'm not upset with you. I'm disagreeing with you.
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