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Thanks, Res. I had read that as well and was curious as to what ceebs knew of the actual events.


I'd be surprised if the majority of PragerU contributors have voluntarily read Shakespeare other than what they were required to read by a formal institute of learning. But perhaps ceebs keeps a copy of The Tempest to hand and drops lines from the bard in casual conversation all the time. In which case, perhaps a bit of outrage over his portrait being replaced could be understood. But I doubt that is the case.
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honorentheos wrote:Thanks, Res. I had read that as well and was curious as to what ceebs knew of the actual events.


I'd be surprised if the majority of PragerU contributors have voluntarily read Shakespeare other than what they were required to read by a formal institute of learning. But perhaps ceebs keeps a copy of The Tempest to hand and drops lines from the bard in casual conversation all the time. In which case, perhaps a bit of outrage over his portrait being replaced could be understood. But I doubt that is the case.


I would be extremely surprised if Ceeboo knew the actual events and yet described them the way he has in this thread.
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Res Ipsa wrote:...snip...


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I, of course, expect that ceeboo will return, apologize for blindly believing, posting and arguing over the garbage he was spoon-fed by his disinformation source of choice, realize that maybe prager "u" is not deserving of his blind devotion and attempt to actually acquaint himself with information that isn't designed to feed his conditioned need for alt-right propaganda..:

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honorentheos wrote:Thanks, Res. I had read that as well and was curious as to what ceebs knew of the actual events.

I'd be surprised if the majority of PragerU contributors have voluntarily read Shakespeare other than what they were required to read by a formal institute of learning. But perhaps ceebs keeps a copy of The Tempest to hand and drops lines from the bard in casual conversation all the time. In which case, perhaps a bit of outrage over his portrait being replaced could be understood. But I doubt that is the case.

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Hmmmmmmmm - Some very interesting developments!

After reading RI's post about the actual events surrounding the University of Pennsylvania taking down the portrait of Shakespeare, I did some of my own research. To say that I was/am more than a little disappointed in Prager would be a gigantic understatement. I did indeed buy the intended message being delivered - Identity politics at play by the political left again. (My thanks to RI for putting me on this path)

The good news: I have gained some very valuable insight about myself as well as a few other things that I won't bore you with.

On to Canpakes post........

canpakes wrote:Anyway, here (again) is some additional insight that you will probably not want to consider, because it doesn’t come from Prager:

(striking mine)

College sophomore and English major Katherine Kvellestad commended the students’ action. She said the choice of replacing the original portrait with one of Audre Lorde sends a positive message.

“You don’t necessarily need to have a portrait of Shakespeare up,” Kvellestad said. “He’s pretty iconic.”

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(Mike) Benz added that college curriculums typically focus on European and Western ideals, and outside texts can sometimes be ignored or set aside.

Penn English professor and Department Chair Jed) Esty emailed English majors and minors on Dec. 8 with the statement he released to the DP. He expressed the department’s dedication to exploring a diverse range of works, both old and new.

“We invite everyone to join us in the task of critical thinking about the changing nature of authorship, the history of language, and the political life of symbols,” Esty wrote.

Truth be told, those perspectives are exceptional in my view and I admit that I never even considered any of them. Perhaps my rush to judgement blocked these thoughts/ideas from ever having a chance to hit me. Again, very valuable to me and for me. (My thanks to cakes for providing them)
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I'm glad Ceeboo posted his latest. I had the same thoughts in that there are a lot of modern thinkers and artisans that should get exposure. Shakespeare IS iconic, so I don't see a problem with making room for others.

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Ceeboo wrote:Hmmmmmmmm - Some very interesting developments!

After reading RI's post about the actual events surrounding the University of Pennsylvania taking down the portrait of Shakespeare, I did some of my own research. To say that I was/am more than a little disappointed in Prager would be a gigantic understatement. I did indeed buy the intended message being delivered - Identity politics at play by the political left again. (My thanks to RI for putting me on this path)

The good news: I have gained some very valuable insight about myself as well as a few other things that I won't bore you with.


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Ceebs is just being the dad in American History X arguing that literary affirmative action is causing educational institutions to drop deserving white males for undeserving minorities to the detriment of society.

The symbol of this is taking down a *picture* of ole Bill Shakespeare that he almost certainly did nothing to investigate or understand.
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Dr. Shades wrote:Why does a website that's funded by billionaires and wealthy corporations, that earns advertising revenue anyway, need my money in the first place?

You've asked this question a couple times, and, unless I missed it, I don't believe Ceeboo has tried to answer it. Odd, since it is a specific question about his OP. Ceeboo, I would like to know the answer to this as well. This should be part of your solicitation script.
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Well, I wrote that post before developments happened.
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