Day 2 of Marshal Law in Canada

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So nobody died, despite people ignoring warnings to get out of the way, and instead grabbing at the horses. The old lady fell over, the horse avoided her, and that's that.

But WHO is the multiply mortal Roberta???
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Chap wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:08 pm
So nobody died, despite people ignoring warnings to get out of the way, and instead grabbing at the horses. The old lady fell over, the horse avoided her, and that's that.

But WHO is the multiply mortal Roberta???
Is she a First Nation citizen of Canada?
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Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:45 pm
I have not seen a video from higher up. I have no idea why the person released a portion or if it is taken from video.
It may not be from a video. I’ve seen it posted lots of times, but no information about where it came from.
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Chap wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 7:08 pm
Thanks for bringing up Lafayette Square.
The first question that needs answering about Lafayette Square is obvious:

Did Roberta Paulsen/Paulson die there as well as in the at least two other places where she has been said to have cashed in her chips?
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What happens in Canada is just a prelude to what's going to start happening in the US. That's how you get results where a black antisemite can open fire in Jew politicians office and be released within two hours. Nobody dares to track who donated the bail money to BLM. But if you donated to the freedom convoy, you're a terrorist and the government should be allowed to shut down your bank account and dox you.
The best part about this is waiting four years to see how all the crazy apocalyptic predictions made by the fear mongering idiots in Right Wing media turned out to be painfully wrong...Gasoline would hit $10/gallon. Hyperinflation would ensue.
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Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:57 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 5:50 am
What is it conservatives say when black people get shot by police? Something like “if they’d just what the police told them to do, they’d be fine.” This illegal occupation of downtown streets has been going on for three weeks. The protesters were told starting a week ago to leave or face arrest. These folks had plenty of warning, including today before the police began clearing the streets. Do you see anybody in this picture complying with the police?

How long were protesters blocking the streets bordering Lafayette Park before Trump sent the riot squad in so he could cross the street and hold a Bible upside down? Was it three weeks? If a black protester tried to take a US cop’s weapon away from him, what do you think the odds are that he’d be alive after that?

You wanna point fingers? Point the fingers at the organizers who told people to stand firm and resist the cops, instead of telling this nice person who needed mobility assistance that it wasn’t safe to stay. They suckered lots of nice folks into a staying in a situation they knew would not be safe.

Was this nice person injured? How badly? Thank heavens the nice person has free health care.

ETA: Having now scene a full video, this photo is pretty misleading. The police has opened up a path for the horses. Several people tried to block the lane. One protester tried to pull something off the black horse, just before it tried to jump over the people lying on the ground. The black horse isn’t trampling - it’s trying to not trample.

The guy in the yellow and black shirt just below the woman in the red coat is the guy who grabbed at the black horse. You can see how the horse is of course as it tries to avoid the people on the ground. At the top of the photo, you can see two more protesters trying to block the horses.
Thanks for bringing up Lafayette Square.

Let’s unpack that a bit more.

I accept every position that was argued by the mainstream media or by the Biden campaign or by the NYT at the time of the initial incidents at Lafayette Square and at the time of the photo op. What were those positions and conditions?

I will accept any and all claims and positions made regarding the protestors and the park police or SS response at that time. What were those claims and conditions?

References would be nice, but not necessary. I accept anything you offer here and agree to it in advance.

I am not attacking or judging anyone’s interpretations.
I don’t have the time to hop from rabbit hole to rabbit hole. If you object to the Lafayette Park comparison, that’s fine. If you think your comparison of this event to crystalnacht is fair, I can’t understand why you object to my comparison with Lafayette Park.

This incident is a perfect example of how disinformation is created and spread. If you want an equivalent example on the left, revisit the state down on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. But there is an important distinction: The disinformation about the truckers is being used as an incitement to violence. This is ultimate cancel culture. With bullets.

You got suckered by your own confirmation bias. So did lots of other folks who will insist ‘til their dying day, that the police trampled people to death with their horses. Lots of the same people were also delighted at the thought of police using violence against protesters they saw as their enemies. Why not take the time to figure out how you got fooled and apply the same skepticism to things you want to believe as things you don’t want to believe?
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:27 pm
Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 6:57 pm


Thanks for bringing up Lafayette Square.

Let’s unpack that a bit more.

I accept every position that was argued by the mainstream media or by the Biden campaign or by the NYT at the time of the initial incidents at Lafayette Square and at the time of the photo op. What were those positions and conditions?

I will accept any and all claims and positions made regarding the protestors and the park police or SS response at that time. What were those claims and conditions?

References would be nice, but not necessary. I accept anything you offer here and agree to it in advance.

I am not attacking or judging anyone’s interpretations.
I don’t have the time to hop from rabbit hole to rabbit hole. If you object to the Lafayette Park comparison, that’s fine. If you think your comparison of this event to crystalnacht is fair, I can’t understand why you object to my comparison with Lafayette Park.

This incident is a perfect example of how disinformation is created and spread. If you want an equivalent example on the left, revisit the state down on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. But there is an important distinction: The disinformation about the truckers is being used as an incitement to violence. This is ultimate cancel culture. With bullets.

You got suckered by your own confirmation bias. So did lots of other folks who will insist ‘til their dying day, that the police trampled people to death with their horses. Lots of the same people were also delighted at the thought of police using violence against protesters they saw as their enemies. Why not take the time to figure out how you got fooled and apply the same skepticism to things you want to believe as things you don’t want to believe?
Hang on.

I said thank you for bringing up Lafayette square. I have no objections. I think it is a valuable comparison. I said I would agree to the comparison on ANY conditions or terms from sources you find credible.

I never believed or said that anyone was trampled to death.
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Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:31 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:27 pm
I don’t have the time to hop from rabbit hole to rabbit hole. If you object to the Lafayette Park comparison, that’s fine. If you think your comparison of this event to crystalnacht is fair, I can’t understand why you object to my comparison with Lafayette Park.

This incident is a perfect example of how disinformation is created and spread. If you want an equivalent example on the left, revisit the state down on the steps of the Lincoln Memorial. But there is an important distinction: The disinformation about the truckers is being used as an incitement to violence. This is ultimate cancel culture. With bullets.

You got suckered by your own confirmation bias. So did lots of other folks who will insist ‘til their dying day, that the police trampled people to death with their horses. Lots of the same people were also delighted at the thought of police using violence against protesters they saw as their enemies. Why not take the time to figure out how you got fooled and apply the same skepticism to things you want to believe as things you don’t want to believe?
Hang on.

I said thank you for bringing up Lafayette square. I have no objections. I think it is a valuable comparison. I said I would agree to the comparison on ANY conditions or terms from sources you find credible.

I never believed or said that anyone was trampled to death.
No, you just posted this.
Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:19 am
Trudeau's Canada. Trudeau's Hanoverians.
Note the mobility walker.
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So yes, "you got suckered by your own confirmation bias", and now you want to walk it back.

Confirming before you post is a helpful strategy to avoid that.
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Marcus wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:42 pm
Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:31 pm

Hang on.

I said thank you for bringing up Lafayette square. I have no objections. I think it is a valuable comparison. I said I would agree to the comparison on ANY conditions or terms from sources you find credible.

I never believed or said that anyone was trampled to death.
No, you just posted this.
Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 1:19 am
Trudeau's Canada. Trudeau's Hanoverians.
Note the mobility walker.
Image
So yes, "you got suckered by your own confirmation bias", and now you want to walk it back.

Confirming before you post is a helpful strategy to avoid that.
Thanks, Marcus.

I said nothing about trampling or death. You got this buddy.
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Binger wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:44 pm
Marcus wrote:
Sat Feb 19, 2022 8:42 pm
No, you just posted this.

So yes, "you got suckered by your own confirmation bias", and now you want to walk it back.

Confirming before you post is a helpful strategy to avoid that.
Thanks, Marcus.

I said nothing about trampling or death.
Of course not. Just a picture showing what people were saying was trampling and death (later proven not true.)

But please, explain more why you posted that picture of an apparent trampling when you didn't intend for trampling to be inferred.
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