I Love This Man

[Gadianton]

I'll look at those links tonight Dr. E, they aren't that long.

Did you have a range of page numbers for me to start on with that 640 page laptop document? Did you read that document?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

My, man. That link reads like the ravings of a conspiracy-obsessed lunatic. Please answer questions 1-5.

- Doc

1. I don't know who Marco Polo (the guy behind the site) is. But that shouldn't matter as you know. See Dr Shades' response.

2. It's obvious you don't want to know.

3. See the report. It shows a chain of custody at the end of the report, and it starts from the clean copy the repair shop owner made. Now and I'm sure you will jump up and down over the fact that Guiliani is part of the chain of custody. Hence the stories about fabrications/additions to the hard drive that are floating around. However, early in the report are two forensic reviews of the hard drive Marco Polo has and these show no tampering or changes. Also, keep in mind that if this is an issue and it really isn't, the laptop is verified, but if it remains, the FBI has the laptop in its possession and we could go through the ritual of a forensic analysis and have the media attention it brings. But, your team is trying to move on at this point and doesn't want to go down that road.

4. Again I am for this and would myself if I had it. The FBI does and publishing is only a subpoena and lots and lots of fighting away from granting your wish.

5. You never asked a fifth question.

Let me ask you this: if you were on a jury and the prosecutor showed unimpeachable evidence that Joe and Hunter were bribed by Burisma to fire Shokin, would you convict or would you act like the jury did in the OJ case?

1. I disagree very strongly. If the person behind the site is a shill or is, well, crazy I want to know. If they’re someone who begets respect I’m more likely to think they and the information they present is credible and serious. Anyway. It appears you don’t know and you don’t care. That’s problematic.

2. I do.

3. I agree with the FBI or a credible third-party, like the Denver International Airport or State Department, conducting a forensic analysis. It’ll put the chain of custody and content questions to rest. If the President was involved in a pay-to-play shakedown he should be exposed and prosecuted - depending on what’s on the laptop, this is a criminal, intel, or diplomatic matter.

4. Giuliani has a copy of the hard drive, no?

5. Ha! You’re reading!

As a side note, I don’t care if Hunter Biden goes to prison for anything. And if proven of corruption, as discussed, I don’t care if JB goes to prison. I’m just skeptical that the GOP has anything because, well, they’re what they are.

- Doc

edit - I forgot:



Lolwtf

[Gadianton]

I went back and read the thread. Regarding the 640 page document, Dr E. had said:

I just found this and so haven't yet read it.

I misunderstood. The way the "5 mil" comment was bundled with references to the 640 page doc, I thought Dr. E was saying this is where he was getting his information. That wasn't so.

The source for the 5 mil to each Biden is the FBI "confidential human source".

The 640 pager has a search feature and 5 mil comes up once. I think it's attempting to show that Hunter received 4.7 mil in consulting fees and this may be his 5 mil?

more later.

[Gadianton]

Here's an article that has been more helpful than others for me, regarding the CHS:

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/13/hunter-biden-fbi/

Directly from the source itself:

CHS mentioned Zlochevsky might have difficulty explaining suspicious wire transfers that may evidence any illicit payments to Joe Biden. CHS asked Slochevsky how many companies/bank accounts Zlochevsky controls; Zlochevsky responded it would take investigators 10 years to find the records (illicit payments to Joe Biden).

So yeah, good luck with hard proof?

Apparently, an epic scheme to quietly pay Joe, in contrast to the relative straightforward payments to Hunter, Hudson West --> Owasco. Over several payments, but no complexity otherwise that would take investigators years to figure out.

[Res Ipsa]

Here's an article that has been more helpful than others for me, regarding the CHS:

https://theintercept.com/2023/06/13/hunter-biden-fbi/

Directly from the source itself:

CHS mentioned Zlochevsky might have difficulty explaining suspicious wire transfers that may evidence any illicit payments to Joe Biden. CHS asked Slochevsky how many companies/bank accounts Zlochevsky controls; Zlochevsky responded it would take investigators 10 years to find the records (illicit payments to Joe Biden).

So yeah, good luck with hard proof?

Apparently, an epic scheme to quietly pay Joe, in contrast to the relative straightforward payments to Hunter, Hudson West --> Owasco. Over several payments, but no complexity otherwise that would take investigators years to figure out.

Dean Robbers,

This may provide some helpful context. https://www.emptywheel.net/2023/07/23/c ... lling-off/

[ajax18]

If somebody has done the research themselves and can point me to a range of pages in that 640 that will get me started on the "5 mil shokin" stuff, I'll take it from there.

The question that persists for me is why does anyone give a crap? What does this lead to? So what if Hunter Biden is guilty/jailed? What does it have to do with anything?

The GOP's hyper-focus on this has no foreseeable end game. It's just something they feel good whining about to get the base rallied. It's not a good look for a bunch of people who hate being condescended to for being dumb.

What happened to making sure the rich pay their fair share? Do you think Hunter Biden enjoys white privilege Schmo? Or does such privilege only extend to poor hicks in WV in your mind?

Another reason this matters is because the deep state has been covering for the BIdens and obstructing justice the entire time.

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

Another reason this matters is because the deep state has been covering for the BIdens and obstructing justice the entire time.

-_-

This is rich coming from a Trumper. Also, if the Deep State is covering for the Bidens then how did Grassley release this:

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/ne ... ery-scheme

It should be noted that the FBI agent and the legal team involved with him are being ran by Grassley himself.

These fuckin’ guys…

- Doc

[ajax18]

Another reason this matters is because the deep state has been covering for the BIdens and obstructing justice the entire time.

-_-

This is rich coming from a Trumper. Also, if the Deep State is covering for the Bidens then how did Grassley release this:

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/ne ... ery-scheme

It should be noted that the FBI agent and the legal team involved with him are being ran by Grassley himself.

These fuckin’ guys…

- Doc

We knew all this stuff before BIden was even elected President. It's amazing how you fail to see the irony in Biden's calls to tax the rich, make more gun control laws, only to see these rules not apply to "the Bidens." This is why democratic socialism always turns into communism.

[ajax18]

Here is a press release from Senator Grassley regarding FD-1023, a document prepared by the FBI about the alleged Biden bribery scheme with the Burisma executive regarding Shokin. https://www.grassley.senate.gov/downloa ... ley_-biden

Nothing really to see according to democrats, so by all means don't look at it.

Here is a Newsweek article outlining the positions of the two sides: https://www.newsweek.com/burisma-owner- ... New Testament-1814424

Rest assured there is some push back by democrats as quoted in the article. So, its safe to read.

The investigation continues with Archer, former Burisma board member along with Hunter, scheduled to testify before Congress on Monday. He is purportedly going to say that the President was part of his son's business dealings, contrary to what he, the President, previously claimed. Stay tuned.

https://abcnews.go.com/US/former-hunter ... =101618183

Can Archer just refuse to testify? Or can he just keep permanently rescheduling?

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

-_-

This is rich coming from a Trumper. Also, if the Deep State is covering for the Bidens then how did Grassley release this:

https://www.grassley.senate.gov/news/ne ... ery-scheme

It should be noted that the FBI agent and the legal team involved with him are being ran by Grassley himself.

These fuckin’ guys…

- Doc

We knew all this stuff before BIden was even elected President. It's amazing how you fail to see the irony in Biden's calls to tax the rich, make more gun control laws, only to see these rules not apply to "the Bidens." This is why democratic socialism always turns into communism.

So the Deep State wasn't covering for them?