Trump Math

[Gunnar]

Today the leader of El Salvador essentially refused to return Garcia. So there we are, the Supreme Court is ineffectual, because Trump will just ask his buddy the tyrant of El Salvador to refuse to do what the Supreme Court demands, so that Trump himself can do an end run around the Supreme Court.

That's outrageous! Does anyone have any serious doubt that Bukele would not have refused to return Garcia if Trump had had actually asked him to instead of asking him to not do so?

[canpakes]

Today the leader of El Salvador essentially refused to return Garcia. So there we are, the Supreme Court is ineffectual, because Trump will just ask his buddy the tyrant of El Salvador to refuse to do what the Supreme Court demands, so that Trump himself can do an end run around the Supreme Court.

That's outrageous! Does anyone have any serious doubt that Bukele would not have refused to return Garcia if Trump had had actually asked him to instead of asking him to not do so?

The whole ruse is ridiculous. The alternative to Trump appearing to be coaching Bukele in order to defy the court, is that the President of El Salvador appears to be telling the President of the United States what he will or won’t do regardless of what Trump wants.

Trump is deciding to look like either a snake, or a weakling. MAGA seems to like their snakes, at least.

[Hound of Heaven]

A few weeks from today:

“Oops. We sent a citizen that we just happen to not like, off to an El Salvadoran prison, and now we don’t know where they are. Oh, well.”

As you’re saying, it’s hard to not see where this is going. Who or what will correct this when it happens?

Elsewhere on the board we have someone droning on about the supposed evils of DEI, for some reason that they can’t even define. This threat from Trump of ‘accidental deportation’ would seem to be a bit more urgent. Distractions abound.

Today the leader of El Salvador essentially refused to return Garcia. So there we are, the Supreme Court is ineffectual, because Trump will just ask his buddy the tyrant of El Salvador to refuse to do what the Supreme Court demands, so that Trump himself can do an end run around the Supreme Court.

Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador currently incarcerated in an El Salvador prison. Why should he be returned to the United States, where he faces the possibility of a second deportation, potentially to another country?

[canpakes]

Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador currently incarcerated in an El Salvador prison. Why should he be returned to the United States, where he faces the possibility of a second deportation, potentially to another country?

Generally, we don’t deport people with a protected American residence status to foreign prisons for no given legal reason.

If we are concerned about the rule of law, then the government should respect its own rules and laws.

[Hound of Heaven]

Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador currently incarcerated in an El Salvador prison. Why should he be returned to the United States, where he faces the possibility of a second deportation, potentially to another country?

Generally, we don’t deport people with a protected American residence status to foreign prisons for no given legal reason.

If we are concerned about the rule of law, then the government should respect its own rules and laws.

The Supreme Court reversed the district court's order with a unanimous decision.

Here are the facts. He is from El Salvador and was in America without legal authorization, lacking any lawful right to be present here. In 2019, he received a final order of removal from this country. The gang member was not mistakenly deported.

What actions would you like to see from the Trump administration? Are you suggesting that they travel to El Salvador to kidnap Garcia and return him to America?

Feel free to continue supporting illegal aliens and gang members, and you’ll witness the Republicans achieving an even greater victory in 2026 than in 2024. Aligning with gang members and judges who seek to maintain the presence of gang members in America is among the most misguided political decisions I have ever observed. I'm telling you, progressives are determined to undermine the Democrat party.

[Gadianton]

he wants to send US citizens to Salvadorian prisons. He says tells Bukele he needs to build five more prisons to do what Trump wants to accomplish.

That would be a heck of an outflow of US currency to El Salvador, a total "rip off" scenario. What is El Salvador demanded to buy in return, in order to balance this unfair trade?

[canpakes]

Generally, we don’t deport people with a protected American residence status to foreign prisons for no given legal reason.

If we are concerned about the rule of law, then the government should respect its own rules and laws.

The Supreme Court reversed the district court's order with a unanimous decision.

Here are the facts. He is from El Salvador and was in America without legal authorization, lacking any lawful right to be present here. In 2019, he received a final order of removal from this country. The gang member was not mistakenly deported.

Actually, you don’t seem to be in command of ‘the facts’.

In 2019, a judge determined that he should not be deported, and handed down a ruling issuing a “withholding from removal” order, meant that he could stay in the United States with a measure of legal protection.

There has been no evidence presented that Garcia is a ‘gang member’, unless you consider a Bulls hat or a random tattoo to be such evidence.

The SC has endorsed the lower courts’s Judge Xinis’s order that requires the administration to “facilitate” the return of Mr. Abrego Garcia.

As I said - rule of law is an important concept. If that puts me on the outs with conservatives, then I’m not concerned with their opinion of that decision.

[canpakes]

That would be a heck of an outflow of US currency to El Salvador, a total "rip off" scenario. What is El Salvador demanded to buy in return, in order to balance this unfair trade?

‘Favors’ from Trump. ; )

[Kishkumen]

Garcia is a citizen of El Salvador currently incarcerated in an El Salvador prison. Why should he be returned to the United States, where he faces the possibility of a second deportation, potentially to another country?

You are pretending to make sense out of the mess that Trump created to score your own rhetorical points. It is sad to see smart people misuse their gifts for evil purposes.

[Kishkumen]

That would be a heck of an outflow of US currency to El Salvador, a total "rip off" scenario. What is El Salvador demanded to buy in return, in order to balance this unfair trade?

I am sure Trump finds the Salvadoran facilitation of his evil tyranny to be an adequate payment.