The MAGA Loyalty Crossroads

[Dr Exiled]

Yes, but at a certain point it becomes a borderline criminal conspiracy to cover up for the party or leads to a civil war with one team constantly attacking the other and sometimes rising to violence. It's gotta stop. Emotions should lessen and regardless of whether or not we have a bull in the china shop or an alzheimer's patient, we are all Americans and party affiliation is used as a method to divide us in favor of the donor class.

I get that people are angry at the current president and others were angry at the other president not really being there, but let's not forget the fact that Congress, both parties, cannot keep a law on the books that prevents them from insider trading. There was recently a news story about Senators having interests in Ukraine that could be evidence of more corruption. It'll probably not go anywhere as a news story because the corporate media masters probably have their hand in the corruption as well. Forget an audit of the funds sent to Ukraine, it's probably Russian propaganda, or at least that is what the corporate media tell us.

I think we are being played by the donor class and party affiliation is a major source of their power. Divide and rule or divide and conquer has been used at least since the Roman times and was used by the British to subjugate India. Perhaps these fights over the 10 commandments being placed wherever and the relentless push to have trans athletes in women's sports is part of it? Keep the population busy while the looting goes forward? And you better support your party and continuously point the finger at the others while your own leaders pick your pockets.

Seems like we should be at a zenith of all this partisan nonsense and realize what is really going on.

Exiled, I think you make good points here. Just because politics operate as a team enterprise does not mean one should be blindly loyal or permanently attached to one team. In a free society, political teams can change, develop correcting subgroups or new teams. People should feel an obligation to correct the team they find themselves associated with or concerned with, with or without some sort of official affiliation.

Yes, and I think the first thing to establish is what is really going on. The war now is on reality and what it is. We have too much team inspired gaslighting going on and incitement and counter-incitement. It may end up in civil war in a few years if we aren't careful. The run-up to the US civil war started well before the first shots were fired at Ft. Sumpter. We should be aware and all calm the __________ down.

[Doctor Steuss]

Now that Trump has called Elon a "big time drug addict," I'm wondering if either of these two teenage drama queens realize the implications of their truth bombs.

Trump is on the Epstein files, which means Musk was perfectly fine funding and elevating a pedophile, and having his own child around the predator.

Musk is a drug addict, which means Trump knowingly and willingly gave an addict access to all of our information, and to go ham on just gutting programs and the nation's security willy-nilly.

A rapist-in-chief dotard that knowingly hands the reins of our nation's future to a drug addict. This is what makes America great.

[ajax18]

That's what Kishkumen is talking about when he accuses Governor DeSantis of book banning and attacking free speech.

You really do have a crap memory. I stood against others here in favor of limiting kids’ access to sexually explicit materials in public school libraries, and I took some heat for it, too.

Who did you take heat from for this stance? CFR

[Kishkumen]

Who did you take heat from for this stance? CFR

You have Google, lazy ass.

[Moksha]

A rapist-in-chief dotard that knowingly hands the reins of our nation's future to a drug addict. This is what makes America great.

You've made Markk's, Hound's, and Ajax's points more succinctly than they could.

[ajax18]

Who did you take heat from for this stance? CFR

You have Google, lazy ass.

I'll take it that you don't have an example of you taking heat from the left on this board for objecting to DeSantis banning pornography in public school libraries as book burning.

[Gadianton]

Ajax, can you cite an example of a pornographic book that DeSantis banned? One that was found and subsequently banned from public school libraries? What's the ratio on non-porn books vs. porn books that he banned? Is it close to the ratio of non-criminal immigrants vs. criminals that Trump is deporting?

As a representative of the party that consumes the most porn I assume you know what porn is and can tell the difference between porn and a PG-13 romantic comedy or love story, including those that have gay or trans characters in them.

[Kishkumen]

I'll take it that you don't have an example of you taking heat from the left on this board for objecting to DeSantis banning pornography in public school libraries as book burning.

I'll take it that you are either too stupid to figure out how to find it or too lazy to try.

[Philo Sofee]

I'll take it that you don't have an example of you taking heat from the left on this board for objecting to DeSantis banning pornography in public school libraries as book burning.

I'll take it that you are either too stupid to figure out how to find it or too lazy to try.

Slappin him good......