I Believe Obama Has Done It

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bcspace wrote:Actually, it seemed that perhaps you were one of the ones finally waking up to the notion that skin color doesn't matter. It IS a travesty that it took an election victory based on race for you and others to experience that.

That I may have done so before you may simply be a matter of me being older than you. But it was not racist effects that caused me to come to that conclusion about skin color, it was me being raised in a predominately (about 70/30) black school.


It seems to me that you are quick to judge on this. Maybe if we had the time to really get to understand each other's views we would agree on much more than we disagree on here. I am not calling you a racist, and I am not accusing those who did not vote for Obama of racism. I do believe that there are many African Americans who are happier and more hopeful today because skin color did not prevent white Americans and Latino Americans from voting for Obama.

And, it just may be that I am less advanced than you are when it comes to race. Is it bad that I connected with this guy over our shared support of Barack? Will it reinforce what you perceive to be my racism? Will it challenge it and cause me to change? Or are you aiming at a completely different point here? I am really not eager to pick a fight over this one bcspace. I am happy to concede that you are the better person. It really isn't that important to me to prove otherwise.
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bcspace wrote:That would be racism as you are still considering skin color as a factor. This perfectly illustrates the case that among Democrat voters, the majority of racism continues.


My guess is that you have a better chance of erasing the influence of Freud on modern culture than wishing away the impact of the race paradigm. But, by all means, best of luck to you.
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What happened when Helvecio Martins became the Church's first black General Authority. No one noticed? No one ever said, "the Church's first black GA"?
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Ray A wrote:What happened when Helvecio Martins became the Church's first black General Authority. No one noticed? No one ever said, "the Church's first black GA"?


A lot of people I knew noticed. Most of them were excited.
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Trevor wrote:Somehow, enjoying the advantages without acknowledging or shouldering the burdens strikes me as irresponsible.

Good point. Personally I think it only fair to enjoy then advantages when I do my part to maintain them.
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bcspace wrote:That would be racism as you are still considering skin color as a factor. This perfectly illustrates the case that among Democrat voters, the majority of racism continues.

Yes BC, I do consider myself to be slightly racist against whites (my own race). While my wish is to be completely color blind, I don't think that's the best policy just yet. I would also love to live in a world without war, or prisons.
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asbestosman wrote:
bcspace wrote:That would be racism as you are still considering skin color as a factor. This perfectly illustrates the case that among Democrat voters, the majority of racism continues.

Yes BC, I do consider myself to be slightly racist against whites (my own race). While my wish is to be completely color blind, I don't think that's the best policy just yet. I would also love to live in a world without war, or prisons.


What does war or prisons have to do with racism, and in fact, with your sense of self-loathing? That post doesn't make any sense.

I think Democrats are much more racist than Repubs are... They tend to overcompensate for it, while Repubs are comfortable with whomever achieving whatever (as long as they're not gay).
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antishock8 wrote:What does war or prisons have to do with racism, and in fact, with your sense of self-loathing? That post doesn't make any sense.

I think a slight reverse-racism is the best course for the current condition of society. When society get better, then I'll be colorblind.

I think war causes a lot of problems--it's costly in terms of resources and lives. However, I believe that war is sometimes the best course of action in this world--like when someone is stupid enough to attack your country by flying into the Pentagon. When society gets to its ideal state, I'll always oppose war.

I think that prisons take a lot of resources to maintain. However, I believe that prisons are necessary to keep criminals off the streets and the rest of us safer. When we are quite safe without the use of prisons, I'll oppose having them.

I think Democrats are much more racist than Repubs are... They tend to overcompensate for it, while Repubs are comfortable with whomever achieving whatever (as long as they're not gay).

Republicans may not be racist, but they are plenty bigoted. In addition to not being gay, you can't atheist, Muslim, or Mormon (except in Utah and maybe surrounding states).

By the way, did I mention that I usually prefer Republicans federally and often prefer Democrats more locally? Actually that's not completely true. I don't really like either party, but nobody else is really viable. There are many things I dislike about both parties for things like their particular brands or discrimination, their spending or tax ideals, their moral policing, and so on.
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Trevor, I appreciated the story about your smile shared on campus.
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