Why is the onus always on what the woman needs to be? If you can’t find a girl that thinks you’re entertaining perhaps the problem is that you’re not entertaining. Have you considered the issue isn’t “them”?
Yup. However ...
I try not to look at this thread very much. But when I do, I often see good points that have been made to DT many, many times before like this one.
DT said, quite clearly, that he is uninterested women's interests, character, accomplishments, or seemingly anything related to their mental world. He also said, quite clearly, this is how he thinks men are like in general - due to evolution - but they might pretend to be otherwise to get access to women.
That sounds awful, and when called on it, he said this is no different than an unconditional love for a child. Of course, his love isn't exactly unconditional, is it? Because that comment was in response to the fact that he is intensely focused on, and has high expectations for, a woman who is a teenager or in her early 20's at the latest and who is either a virgin or had 1 or 2 sexual partners at the most. Personality doesn't matter much, but this very much does.
It's understandable to try to get him to see that no matter how much sex you get, personality is gonna matter at some point, right? But look at how disingenuous his defense of himself is there. Either you're dealing with a level of brokenness that isn't going to be fixed by that comment or you are talking with someone who wants a forum to go on and on about how he sees Roy Moore as aspirational because it's fulfilling for him to do that.
Remember when DT's posting obsession was talking about how attractive teachers having sex with their students were getting treated too harshly by the law? Or when it was how date rape and statutory rape allegations are a swamp of uncertainty?
Weird that almost all of his posting interests relate to a similar theme, right? Anyway, I once was on a forum where a person posted who had a balloon fetish. (Yeah, I know.) He'd try to shoehorn it into anything, and it was weird. I think he tried to scandalize people with it, but it was boring. Balloons, we get it. Being unusual is not a personality. At a certain point, I don't think he had a balloon fetish so much as a fetish to talk about his balloon fetish.
EAllusion wrote:
Remember when DT's posting obsession was talking about how attractive teachers having sex with their students were getting treated too harshly by the law? Or when it was how date rape and statutory rape allegations are a swamp of uncertainty?
Yes. I had forgotten about that.
Weird that almost all of his posting interests relate to a similar theme, right? Anyway, I once was on a forum where a person posted who had a balloon fetish. (Yeah, I know.) He'd try to shoehorn it into anything, and it was weird. I think he tried to scandalize people with it, but it was boring. Balloons, we get it. Being unusual is not a personality.
Okay.
At a certain point, I don't think he had a balloon fetish so much as a fetish to talk about his balloon fetish.
I still think it’s no coincidence that every topic brought up in these threads matches an incel topic discussed elsewhere on the internet. Where is DT getting his topics? For example, this thread’s original topic title was “half of all women are not attractive,” with the further explanation that those were the women 25 and older, even though his stats didn’t actually support that. With that in mind, read this:
New incel theory: If you’re a guy who missed out on “Teenage Stacy worshiping your dick” you’re an incel-for-life
OCTOBER 18, 2018 · By David Futrelle
Sometimes it’s hard to tell if the incel obsession with “Jailbait” stems from their... ephebophile... fantasies, or if they’re just looking for an excuse to suggest that all the adult men out there having sex with adult women are secretly as sad and pathetic as incels are.
Take, for example, this post today on Incels.is..
Getting some ancient 25 year old (at best) used up slut that is looking for a “safe man” after highschool/ college Chads and Tyrones are done using her holes is the equivalent of escortcelling. You might still get the occasional sex but it will be nowhere near the same as to what superior men got...
The one good thing about this is watching cucktears copers [i.e. commenters on the IncelTears subreddit] saying things like “i’m happy I met my wife when she was 30 years old because she’s more mature now and gives me better handjobs because of her experience “
You can feel their pain from their posts.
I suppose there’s a a third possible explanation here: that OverBeforeItBegan is trying to convince himself that his Incels.me handle is an accurate one by “proving” that there’s nothing he can do to make his life better so he might as well just wallow in misery forever.
Of course, it’s also possible that the correct answer is “all of the above” — that OverBeforeItBegan is a[n] ....ephebophile who wants to think most men are secretly as miserable as he is and that nothing will ever make anything better for any of them.
I’m not sure I’ve ever encountered a social movement quite so devoted to making (and keeping) everyone involved in it feeling miserable, bitter, and hopeless.
DT cleans up these topics before bringing them here (thankfully) but if his ideas are coming from misogynistic incel sites, I maintain he is here only to troll.
Wow. ‘Most men don’t really care about a woman’s views.’ Nothing sexist about that, right?
What I meant is that women want a guy that is funny, charming, intelligent, and nice. Women want a man that accomplished a lot of things. A good looking man won't be succeful without a good personality. Lonely men on the other hand wouldn't care about how much a woman makes or how many things she accomplished. Political/religious views are not very important for most men.
I still think it’s no coincidence that every topic brought up in these threads matches an incel topic discussed elsewhere on the internet. Where is DT getting his topics? For example, this thread’s original topic title was “half of all women are not attractive,” with the further explanation that those were the women 25 and older, even though his stats didn’t actually support that.
I first heard the word incel from Ellusion, and I honestly don't go to incel sites, those guys are tribalist, and I don't like tribalism. I don't think internet incels are intelligent.
According to the stats 45% of women over 24 have a history of 5 or more, I didn't make it up. I did express my opinions and feelings about the statistics. Where do I get the topics? Well I do like to read Psychology Today and other magazines.
You have to be kidding me! There are probably millions of incel posts on the internet and you think I got it from that guy? You can find anything you want with the power of Google. It is just confirmation bias. I think you may be crazier than the incels. You are like the SJW that is hurting the Democratic party.
I still think it’s no coincidence that every topic brought up in these threads matches an incel topic discussed elsewhere on the internet.
That is just so stupid. The internet is a really really big place and there are more comments than people on planet Earth. I read statistics, reputable magazines, and the scientific literature, not internet incels.
An 18 year (or older) woman is an adult, there is no debate about it. You think an 18 year old woman is just a child! An 18 year old woman is not a child and can be in a healthy relatinshop with an older man. A lonely 25 year old woman is more vulnerable than a 18 year old. You ignored I said, "To clarify I would much rather date a 25 year old woman with no history than a 18-22 with a history. "
You misread everything I say and you are fixaded with crazy femenists sites. Yea go hunt the incels if you want. wehuntedthemammoth? What is that? You can't be serious.
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You mean like only 20 years in prison? I used to talk a lot about the war on drugs, but not here. I did say many times that the teacher needed to be punished, however there is no evidence that an older teenager is scarred for life if the sex is consensual according to some research papers I read. No evidence of trauma, depression, or some serious damage if it was consensual according to the papers. So maybe 20 years of prison is too harsh, but I don't really care anymore, too bad if a smartass manipulates his teacher. You used to agree with me on that remember?
Weird that almost all of his posting interests relate to a similar theme, right?
I got out of the church (in my mind), I was just questioning everything. I didn't have much friend back then, and I don't have much friends now. So there is no surprise.
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You have been so nice to me. It really means a lot. I have to go, but when I come back I will prove to you in a PM that I am not some old guy. If it matters, it shouldn't..
Wow. ‘Most men don’t really care about a woman’s views.’ Nothing sexist about that, right?
What I meant is that women want a guy that is funny, charming, intelligent, and nice. Women want a man that accomplished a lot of things. A good looking man won't be succeful without a good personality. Lonely men on the other hand wouldn't care about how much a woman makes or how many things she accomplished. Political/religious views are not very important for most men.
Do you not see that the way you phrased your second explanation is just as sexist as the way you phrased your first one?
Lemmie wrote:
Take, for example, this post today on Incels.is.
You have to be kidding me! There are probably millions of incel posts on the internet and you think I got it from that guy?
DT, do you understand what the phrase, “for example,” means?
You misread everything I say and you are fixaded with crazy femenists sites.
While I kind of like the new verb “fixaded” that you have created, I would argue that if you don’t want people to “misread” you, you should make an attempt to be less offensive in what you say.
