Rules and Moderator information

[canpakes]

Hound, link to the message and we can discuss whatever you are unclear on.

There is no need to provide any links, as I already comprehend that your role as a moderator is to support your progressive peers, and that will dictate your actions regardless of the situation. You, in your role as a moderator, cautioned me against using a particular nickname for Marcus. You said it is harassment.

Hey, Hound … no worries. I found it, here:

viewtopic.php?p=2906549#p2906549

My point is that you view sexism as corrosive and damaging, particularly when it appears as taunts on the discussion board. You likely also consider it a form of discrimination that undermines dignity, correct?

I was talking about sexually harassing behavior. Check the link.

However, as a moderator, you have permitted Wang Chung to behave in an unacceptable way by repeatedly insulting me about my age, over 20 times. This constitutes ageism, which is just as damaging as sexism, if not more so, yet you allow it to continue without intervention.

I don’t think that Everybody Wang Chung knows your age. I certainly don’t think that you’re actually 85, as has been joked from fact-checking your anecdotes. Are you 85? : )

Upon further investigation, one may discover that ageism is more prevalent than sexism in the workplace. A significant majority of workers aged 40 and above encounter ageism. However, even though we are not at work, you have not taken any action regarding Wang Chung and his comments about my age whenever he addresses me on the board. Demonstrating yet again that your focus is solely on your progressive allies, permitting them to treat me unfairly.

A couple of thoughts here:

1. You don’t seem to be employed here at Shades Industries. I’ve checked. Are you the one stuffing your lunch into that old locker with ‘AM’ scratched into the paint?

2. Complaining about ageism is woke. Don’t be woke, Hound.

Here are my questions. Which is worse, sexism or ageism, or are both equally detrimental?

Let’s do paper, rock, scissors, to determine.

For my second question, if you think both instances are discriminatory, why have you not taken any action regarding Wang Chung's harassment about my age? Are you going to use the excuse of "well you haven't reported the issue to the moderators yet" again?

Sure. As Shades has mentioned previously, mods are here to guide behavior. If you refuse to adhere to what Shades has asked regarding reporting posts, then I can’t help you very well.

The entire purpose of having moderators is to address discrimination promptly, meaning that when a moderator observes it on the board, it can be dealt with right away. Failing to receive a report of discrimination does not justify a moderator's inaction, wouldn't you concur?

Are you confusing an online message board with a workplace?

I’ll forward your request to Rose in HR. She can help you with questions regarding discrimination.

[Hound of Heaven]

Hound, link to the message and we can discuss whatever you are unclear on.

Everybody Wang Chung can explain this better, I am sure, but one of the manufactured stories HoundDogMike has presented here required him to be 80+ years old, when the facts were reviewed.

As a result, Everybody Wang Chung has pointed out HoundDogMike's lies by reminding him how old he would have to be if his lies were true. That is not ageism. That is pointing out a liar.

Almost like clockwork, Marcus arrives to validate my assertion by accusing me of lying about my age, which exemplifies ageism at its finest.

[Marcus]

Everybody Wang Chung can explain this better, I am sure, but one of the manufactured stories HoundDogMike has presented here required him to be 80+ years old, when the facts were reviewed.

As a result, Everybody Wang Chung has pointed out HoundDogMike's lies by reminding him how old he would have to be if his lies were true. That is not ageism. That is pointing out a liar.

Almost like clockwork, Marcus arrives to validate my assertion by accusing me of lying about my age, which exemplifies ageism at its finest.

QED.

[canpakes]

Almost like clockwork, Marcus arrives to validate my assertion by accusing me of lying about my age, which exemplifies ageism at its finest.

So you are 85?

This probably accounts for your crankiness.

[Hound of Heaven]

Isn't that what the word censor is for?

No. The word censor is an absolute last resort.

Constantly updating the word censor in an attempt to keep up with the ever-so-creative sexual and anatomical slurs that people insist on constantly coming up with to hurl at each other is a Sisyphean task. It's easier to just ask them to adhere to the rules.

So Dr. Shades, following our conversation last week, I mentioned that I would utilize the moderator discussion thread as it was meant to be used, just as I have done previously, despite Canpakes removing more than a dozen of my posts in the past week.

I find myself in the moderator discussion thread, engaging with one of your moderators, who is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal information from me. Many individuals on a discussion board are unaware of other members beyond what they share about themselves online, and even then, the accuracy of that information remains uncertain. Wouldn't you agree?

Several months ago, in my first few post, I shared some information about myself, mentioning that I have experienced more years than many here. Currently, I find myself facing discrimination, ageism, not only from Marcus, who claims I discriminated against her, but also from one of your moderators. This moderator is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal details about me. Why is Canpake's forcing me to prove my age before taking action against posters who discriminate against me for being old?

Among the numerous threads currently active on the board, shouldn't this particular thread be the one where your moderators demonstrate professionalism, enabling us all to learn how to improve the board?

[Marcus]

No. The word censor is an absolute last resort.

Constantly updating the word censor in an attempt to keep up with the ever-so-creative sexual and anatomical slurs that people insist on constantly coming up with to hurl at each other is a Sisyphean task. It's easier to just ask them to adhere to the rules.

So Dr. Shades, following our conversation last week, I mentioned that I would utilize the moderator discussion thread as it was meant to be used, just as I have done previously, despite Canpakes removing more than a dozen of my posts in the past week.

I find myself in the moderator discussion thread, engaging with one of your moderators, who is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal information from me. Many individuals on a discussion board are unaware of other members beyond what they share about themselves online, and even then, the accuracy of that information remains uncertain. Wouldn't you agree?

Several months ago, in my first few post, I shared some information about myself, mentioning that I have experienced more years than many here. Currently, I find myself facing discrimination, ageism, not only from Marcus, who claims I discriminated against her, but also from one of your moderators. This moderator is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal details about me. Why is Canpake's forcing me to prove my age before taking action against posters who discriminate against me for being old?

Among the numerous threads currently active on the board, shouldn't this particular thread be the one where your moderators demonstrate professionalism, enabling us all to learn how to improve the board?

Scrambling by including more lies is a poor strategy, HoundDogMike.

[canpakes]

No. The word censor is an absolute last resort.

Constantly updating the word censor in an attempt to keep up with the ever-so-creative sexual and anatomical slurs that people insist on constantly coming up with to hurl at each other is a Sisyphean task. It's easier to just ask them to adhere to the rules.

So Dr. Shades, following our conversation last week, I mentioned that I would utilize the moderator discussion thread as it was meant to be used, just as I have done previously, despite Canpakes removing more than a dozen of my posts in the past week.

What posts are you referring to?

I find myself in the moderator discussion thread, engaging with one of your moderators, who is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal information from me.

Are you saying that I’m asking you questions, then, or the other you? Be more specific.

Several months ago, in my first few post, I shared some information about myself, mentioning that I have experienced more years than many here.

An interesting statement, if read a certain way. Your account isn’t even two years old yet.

Currently, I find myself facing discrimination, ageism, not only from Marcus, who claims I discriminated against her, but also from one of your moderators. This moderator is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal details about me. Why is Canpake's forcing me to prove my age before taking action against posters who discriminate against me for being old?

Hound, if I had known that you’d be embarrassed about receiving the Senior Discount, I would have been more … discreet.

Among the numerous threads currently active on the board, shouldn't this particular thread be the one where your moderators demonstrate professionalism, enabling us all to learn how to improve the board?

I have a great tool that will allow us to improve the board. It’s called the report feature. Would you like to know more?

[Hound of Heaven]

Isn't that what the word censor is for?

No. The word censor is an absolute last resort.

Constantly updating the word censor in an attempt to keep up with the ever-so-creative sexual and anatomical slurs that people insist on constantly coming up with to hurl at each other is a Sisyphean task. It's easier to just ask them to adhere to the rules.

Dr. Shades, I’m sharing a screenshot from one of my earliest posts on the discussion board. As I mentioned, my daughter gifted me the tablet that I use to communicate with my family and to enjoy browsing the internet. I reached a stage where using my phone became impossible because I couldn't type on the keyboard; it was too small. My daughter provided me with one of their business tablets, and she takes care of it for me since it actually belongs to her and my son-in-law's businesses. Even with the tablet, I occasionally need to speak into a microphone to communicate, as there are days when my fingers aren't functioning well enough for typing. I detailed all of this when I began posting on the board, yet the individuals I believed would not make light of my situation, particularly one of the moderators, continue to act as if I am someone else.

Now, Canpakes is posing personal questions, forcing me to prove my age before addressing the ageism I am facing on the board.

When should Canpakes adopt a more serious approach in his role as a moderator? What is the purpose of having a moderator thread when the primary moderator, Canpakes, who handles the majority of moderation on the board, uses it to make jokes at others' expense and solicit personal information?

[Hound of Heaven]

So Dr. Shades, following our conversation last week, I mentioned that I would utilize the moderator discussion thread as it was meant to be used, just as I have done previously, despite Canpakes removing more than a dozen of my posts in the past week.

What posts are you referring to?

I find myself in the moderator discussion thread, engaging with one of your moderators, who is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal information from me.

Are you saying that I’m asking you questions, then, or the other you? Be more specific.

Several months ago, in my first few post, I shared some information about myself, mentioning that I have experienced more years than many here.

An interesting statement, if read a certain way. Your account isn’t even two years old yet.

Currently, I find myself facing discrimination, ageism, not only from Marcus, who claims I discriminated against her, but also from one of your moderators. This moderator is accusing me of being someone else while simultaneously requesting personal details about me. Why is Canpake's forcing me to prove my age before taking action against posters who discriminate against me for being old?

Hound, if I had known that you’d be embarrassed about receiving the Senior Discount, I would have been more … discreet.

Among the numerous threads currently active on the board, shouldn't this particular thread be the one where your moderators demonstrate professionalism, enabling us all to learn how to improve the board?

I have a great tool that will allow us to improve the board. It’s called the report feature. Would you like to know more?

Got it!!? Assholke! I'm old!!! You win!n!! You don't need to be serous!!! You are supposed to be the one hyelping against the abuse!!!! You are a means individual !!

[Marcus]

What posts are you referring to?



Are you saying that I’m asking you questions, then, or the other you? Be more specific.



An interesting statement, if read a certain way. Your account isn’t even two years old yet.



Hound, if I had known that you’d be embarrassed about receiving the Senior Discount, I would have been more … discreet.



I have a great tool that will allow us to improve the board. It’s called the report feature. Would you like to know more?

Got it!!? Assholke! I'm old!!! You win!n!! You don't need to be serous!!! You are supposed to be the one hyelping against the abuse!!!! You are a means individual !!

That was entertaining. I'm guessing HoundDogMike realizes he has let slip too many clues about whose sockpuppet he is. And yes, he's dropped many, many clues.

Can someone translate this joke for me?

FibberMike is an 85 year old HoundDog who knows sock puppets aren't allowed.
Mods are abused but since Shades is amused, no one can cry foul.

Last time I posted this, Shades asked me what I meant, so I'll be clear this time.

It's clear that Hound of Heaven is an AtlanticMike sockpuppet. I assume Shades knows this, and he knowingly and willingly leaves canpakes in the tough position of fielding all this sockpuppet nonsense, while he occasionally drops in to say ...not much. I see this as Shades being amused by the abuse our moderator canpakes heroically deals with and fends off, as virtually the only remaining mod caring for our board. This sockpuppet is causing at least 90% of the board moderation tasks. As far as I can tell, our valiant, unpaid canpakes handles the vast majority of these.

So yes, I see this:

"Mods are abused but since Shades is amused, no one can cry foul."