NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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Markk wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:10 pm
In other words you really don't care to practice what you preach.
Aren’t you the guy who says undocumented immigrants are ruining America, but you work with and manage them?
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Dwight wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:22 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:10 pm
In other words you really don't care to practice what you preach.
Aren’t you the guy who says undocumented immigrants are ruining America, but you work with and manage them?
Yes, to a degree. Illegal Immigration is a burden on the system, big time. Drugs and trafficking is horrific. I have had friends and working friends that were and are illegally here, and many legally here with work visa's. Living in Southern California it is pretty hard to separate your self from it, and next to impossible being in construction. I don't blame them, most just want a better life, but it does not make it right.

What is your solution, open borders? If not, what do you think we should do with those that breech the system and come in illegally?
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Markk wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:41 pm
What is your solution, open borders? If not, what do you think we should do with those that breech the system and come in illegally?
What should we do about their employers?
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Dwight wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:22 pm
Markk wrote:
Sat Dec 07, 2024 8:10 pm
In other words you really don't care to practice what you preach.
Aren’t you the guy who says undocumented immigrants are ruining America, but you work with and manage them?
lol. I wasn’t going to say anything : D

In the case of that particular reply, I think (because he hasn’t responded otherwise) that what Markk was referring to was our older home’s use of natural gas (furnace), and swap-out of an older electric range with a new gas range when we purchased that home some years back … and that we didn’t rip it all out and put in a solar electrical system.

New electric ranges are more efficient in general than gas ranges, but electrical generation in our state is still about 1/2 from coal, so use of the gas range may actually be better in that situation as regards total (end to end) emissions, according to some sources.

The other weird consideration is that about 25% of the natgas mix in our county is methane captured from landfill offgassing, which is a great way to reduce what would otherwise just be vented off.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:28 am
Markk wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 11:41 pm
What is your solution, open borders? If not, what do you think we should do with those that breech the system and come in illegally?
What should we do about their employers?
I think there are already laws on the books in the USA regarding employers but they are not being enforced and the employers aren’t scared of hiring someone who in their mind is here illegally. If penalties were severe including seizure of property they may think twice.

Also, coming here illegally can be full of life threatening risks: exposure to the elements, numerous ways of being exploited and fear of retaliation if an individual comes forward and makes a complaint. I wish there was a better way than the slow process that is in place but they are really placing themselves at risk when coming here in a way other than what is legal.

I remember a report a long time ago about agencies putting gallons of water all throughout an area because of how many people had died of thirst, exhaustion and exposure in that area.
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yellowstone123 wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:57 am
canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:28 am
What should we do about their employers?
I think there are already laws on the books in the USA regarding employers but they are not being enforced and the employers aren’t scared of hiring someone who in their mind is here illegally. If penalties were severe including seizure of property they may think twice.
Perhaps we need to ramp up enforcement of those laws in equal measure to our new mass deportation program.

We could even consider deporting Americans who have hired, paid and protected such vile illegal evildoers.
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 4:04 am
We could even consider deporting Americans who have hired, paid, and protected such vile illegal evildoers.
What about automatic laser turrets posted along the border?
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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:43 am
lol. I wasn’t going to say anything : D

In the case of that particular reply, I think (because he hasn’t responded otherwise) that what Markk was referring to was our older home’s use of natural gas (furnace), and swap-out of an older electric range with a new gas range when we purchased that home some years back ... and that we didn’t rip it all out and put in a solar electrical system.

New electric ranges are more efficient in general than gas ranges, but electrical generation in our state is still about 1/2 from coal, so use of the gas range may actually be better in that situation as regards total (end to end) emissions, according to some sources.

The other weird consideration is that about 25% of the natgas mix in our county is methane captured from landfill offgassing, which is a great way to reduce what would otherwise just be vented off.
Yeah, I got that, but I kind of went back and forth and decided to go for the dig. We are in a similar boat on some things. There are some things we are 100% in, and others that due to the nature of our house it isn't necessarily the most green thing to go with everything, since there is a material and junk cost.
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Re: NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:43 am
Dwight wrote:
Sun Dec 08, 2024 9:22 pm
Aren’t you the guy who says undocumented immigrants are ruining America, but you work with and manage them?
lol. I wasn’t going to say anything : D

In the case of that particular reply, I think (because he hasn’t responded otherwise) that what Markk was referring to was our older home’s use of natural gas (furnace), and swap-out of an older electric range with a new gas range when we purchased that home some years back ... and that we didn’t rip it all out and put in a solar electrical system.

New electric ranges are more efficient in general than gas ranges, but electrical generation in our state is still about 1/2 from coal, so use of the gas range may actually be better in that situation as regards total (end to end) emissions, according to some sources.

The other weird consideration is that about 25% of the natgas mix in our county is methane captured from landfill offgassing, which is a great way to reduce what would otherwise just be vented off.

Or, you can't afford less polluting cars (electric or hybrid), and generally making your home more green by going to renewable energy. You are just making excuses. You have a lot if if's and buts in your excuses. And it is okay to to say cooking with electric sucks.

When you put your gas range in and took out your electric range did you rip out your wiring, or just "un plug" it and turn off the breaker? Did you remove all your wiring to the panel? My guess is you did not, and that you still have a plug or hardwire box behind your range now.

Also putting in a new solar system is hardly abrasive. It fact it is very simple. My system with a panel upgrade only took a few days, less wait time for inspection. They add steel brackets and run a conduit with conductors to your existing panel and install a few devises, surface mounted, on your wall. You already had a electric range, so your panel is most likely fine. Adding a new upgrade panel is also easy. Again, excuses.
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Re: NBC news story on Hunter Biden

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Dwight wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 10:09 am
canpakes wrote:
Mon Dec 09, 2024 2:43 am
lol. I wasn’t going to say anything : D

In the case of that particular reply, I think (because he hasn’t responded otherwise) that what Markk was referring to was our older home’s use of natural gas (furnace), and swap-out of an older electric range with a new gas range when we purchased that home some years back ... and that we didn’t rip it all out and put in a solar electrical system.

New electric ranges are more efficient in general than gas ranges, but electrical generation in our state is still about 1/2 from coal, so use of the gas range may actually be better in that situation as regards total (end to end) emissions, according to some sources.

The other weird consideration is that about 25% of the natgas mix in our county is methane captured from landfill offgassing, which is a great way to reduce what would otherwise just be vented off.
Yeah, I got that, but I kind of went back and forth and decided to go for the dig. We are in a similar boat on some things. There are some things we are 100% in, and others that due to the nature of our house it isn't necessarily the most green thing to go with everything, since there is a material and junk cost.
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