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canpakes wrote:Are you asserting that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama?

you should ask Sarah Rivera Scott this question.
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subgenius wrote:
canpakes wrote:Are you asserting that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama?

you should ask Sarah Rivera Scott this question.

You should, as well. ; )
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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:you should ask Sarah Rivera Scott this question.

You should, as well. ; )

I did and she said that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama.
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subgenius wrote:I did and she said that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama.

You should tell that story, then.
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canpakes wrote:
subgenius wrote:I did and she said that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama.

You should tell that story, then.

just did.
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canpakes wrote:Upstream, you posted:

Water Dog wrote:I remember Obama revoking access on occasion, and don't remember anybody accusing infringement of constitutional rights over it.

Are you asserting that a particular member of the press corps had their access revoked under Obama?

No. If I were I would have named the particular member, wouldn't I? The accusation is that Trump is some kind of despot-curious leader who represents a threat to freedom of the press. I'm not seeing it. It's your burden to make that case. Obama had a reputation for similar if not worse behavior. As sub pointed out Obama even weaponized the Espionage act to go after journalists he didn't like. I don't see Trump doing anything similar to the stuff Obama did.

As for this most recent action of revoking a hard pass, I do recall Obama doing things similar to that as well. It's an ironic thing. How would you even know if the media didn't report on it? How many hard passes were revoked during Obama years? Or how many were denied and not granted in the first place? Is this information posted somewhere? I don't recall the details off hand, but I think it was World Net Daily, perhaps when Jerome Corsi worked for them? I remember them having their white house credentials revoked. Pretty confident it happened. Feel free to research it if it interests you. I don't particularly care.

One journalist having his pass revoked, out of the thousands who possess one, means diddly squat. And there are so many ways to skin this cat. As if this represents a greater "threat" than any of the other potential actions. I mean who cares of a badge to enter the white house exists or not when you aren't giving press conferences in the first place. Obama was famous for not letting the media report on certain things in the first place. He had all kinds of meetings and goings on and press wasn't allowed anywhere near it. Wasn't he even manipulating White House visitor logs to keep the comings and goings from being reported? He was about the least transparent President ever. Certainly in the modern era. And that was even with them mostly on his side... he didn't at all get the kind of nasty treatment Trump is. Whether he brings it on himself or not. And while conservatives talked trash about this fact, I don't recall them accusing him of criminal behavior over it. Nobody was talking about impeaching him and launching all manner of congressional investigations.

The unhinged is off the charts. I'm getting bored with it, time to focus on something else until the next flare up.
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Sooooo... you got nothing.

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Water Dog wrote:... he didn't at all get the kind of nasty treatment Trump is ...

Nor, very much unlike Trump, did he deserve it. Unlike Trump, Obama did not have a history of highly misogynistic remarks and actions against women, nor was he a twice divorced man with with an undoubted history of adultery with all his wives, both prior and present, nor a history of committing frauds (like Trump "University"), nor a record of bankruptcy and deliberate defaults on loans, nor a history of supporting or, at least, apologizing for known racist individuals and organizations, nor expressing admiration for known tyrants like Putin, Kim Jong Un and Rodrigo Duterte.

Obama was not without flaws, nor did he ever claim that he was, But compared to Trump, who admantly refuses to admit to any flaws or errors of any kind on his part, Obama was a paragon of virtue and highly respected as both a good father and husband who obviously deeply loved and respected his wife.
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Gunnar wrote:
Water Dog wrote:... he didn't at all get the kind of nasty treatment Trump is ...

Nor, very much unlike Trump, did he deserve it. Unlike Trump, Obama did not have a history of highly misogynistic remarks and actions against women, nor was he a twice divorced man with with an undoubted history of adultery with all his wives, both prior and present, nor a history of committing frauds (like Trump "University"), nor a record of bankruptcy and deliberate defaults on loans, nor a history of supporting or, at least, apologizing for known racist individuals and organizations, nor expressing admiration for known tyrants like Putin, Kim Jong Un and Rodrigo Duterte.

So, how does anything you list here merit different treatment from the press?...Is it not a journalists' job to simply report facts, asks questions, and avoid becoming the story?
And given the rather odd list you have provided, do you think that someone else who also has a controversial public history, but different political affiliation, would deserve the same "nasty" treatment as you deem as being justifiable for Trump?


Gunnar wrote:Obama was not without flaws, nor did he ever claim that he was, But compared to Trump, who admantly refuses to admit to any flaws or errors of any kind on his part, Obama was a paragon of virtue and highly respected as both a good father and husband who obviously deeply loved and respected his wife.

Again, is it the professional responsibility of the press to treat a story differently based upon their own personal attractions or distastes? Is there a difference, for you, between reporting news and providing editorial opinion?
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Sooooo... you got nothing.

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Sarah Rivera Scott had her White House press pass revoked under Obama, and was cold-shouldered by Gibbs when she politely and repeatedly raised her hand to ask why?...but that was indicative of the "transparency" enforced under Obama, correct?
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