The Political Impact of Failed Assassination

[Jersey Girl]

As if the attempted assassination wasn’t bad enough, Republicans, lacking any evidence, not to mention respect for anyone’s intelligence, started to blame it on Joe Biden and Democrats. Crazy.

Just think: If Biden really was behind the plot, then he would have immunity because it was done in his official capacity as President.

Good point!

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

So, do the board dummies still think the shooter was a Liberal?

- Doc

[ajax18]

He is saying that the profile of the shooter is much closer to that of a school shooter than I political shooter. I would say in his departure from the political shooter model he is comparable to with Reagan's shooter Hinckley. Hinckley seems not to have had a political beef with Reagan. Instead he was seeking to grab the attention of a famous actor.

I think it is entirely possible that a Biden rally on the same day, at the same time, and in the same location, might have resulted in an injured Biden. I don't see much evidence to support a political motive.

Yeah, for the most part. This was a school shooting. The "cool kids" just happen to be politicians. I think it's pretty ridiculous he'd be fired up over threats to democracy when that democracy wasn't for him. It was for other people. Trying to extract anything of significance out of a 15 dollar donation when compared to four years of isolation and getting bullied is absurd. Same for registering Republican. Meaningless compared to all the rejection inputs. I think he would have been biased against the right because he resonated with gun culture which probably included survivalist paranoia, but in the end, there wasn't a place for him in that village. You know the saying, "the child who is not embraced by the village will burn it down to feel its warmth."

I'm open to being wrong, and here's some things that could change my mind. The first thing would be diaries or extensive social media indicating active political fantasies. If he had some second life filled with Kaczynski paranoia and the culmination of that was a significant action he must take, then that might be enough to consider it political. He was quite intelligent so it's possible. Whatever it is, it needs to stand on its own. Something else that could change my mind is that it's discovered he was part of an online community with political ties that over a reasonable amount of time, pushed him to this decision. I have doubts about this because an online community would have been something to live for. Of course, there could have been a politically charged adult who manipulated him. I doubt it, but such a discovery would certainly make it political.

Imagine a man in a bad marriage and constant employment problems. Something on Facebook that's political pisses him off, he likes the post or makes a statement and then goes out and commits a violent crime. Yes, it shows the potholes of political incitement, but I have a really hard time calling it a true political motive. It's easy to light a match, dowsing the building in gasoline takes more effort. Should this same person, however, deal with his problems by joining an online group that's political, and he gets caught up in the drama and works himself up, and then goes out and commits a crime connected to the material discussed by his community, then yeah, it's political. Even if the bad marriage was the cause for turning to political escapism, at a certain point, the political life stands on its own.

Until then, this was a school shooting.

Same for registering Republican.

Pennsylvania had an open primary. Many Democrats registered as Republicans in an effort to help Haley defeat Trump in the primary.

[honorentheos]

He registered as a Republican two years ago.

[honorentheos]

To be clear I don't think his politics matter. They got in his phone, interviewed everyone around him including his parents, accessed his computer. Building a bomb removed the possibility it was purely opportunist. He had a plan that apparently only worked because he found the seams in the security plan and things went wrong for everyone else multiple times.

It's possible we will never know his actual motive. Anything being said with conviction right now is almost certainly speculation that reflects on the person's own views sharing the speculation.

[Gadianton]

I'm a born speculator so here it goes. I did see some evidence that goes against my school shooter hypothesis. Still non-political though. He apparently had a history class where they did a deep dive on the Kennedy assassination. I'm not aware of anything that says he was obsessed with that class project, but it's pretty significant. And if that were his inspiration to fame, I definitely think it would bias him to Trump as a target vs. Biden to seal his infamy. The current weak-looking president the president's own side doesn't want or the savior of the Christian world who has been in the news more than anybody else in history.

Also, it turns out he was rejected from the school rifle team on account of his poor marksmanship.

Ajax, it's cute you're trying, but you don't need to. Rumble.com and all your MAGA leaders have been blaming Obama, Biden, and the Deep State since the moment it happened, no facts will influence those opinions one way or another from what they've already decided. You live in a world where you just get to make up whatever so you should join in and just make up whatever.

[Doctor Steuss]

Since Trump has been described as a leader, I have a leadership question. It's probably also a basic human decency question too.

If someone is killed by a bullet that is meant for you, while actively supporting you, at an event put on by you, do you:

1. Reach out to offer condolences to the widow.

2. Golf.

[Binger]

Since Trump has been described as a leader, I have a leadership question. It's probably also a basic human decency question too.

If someone is killed by a bullet that is meant for you, while actively supporting you, at an event put on by you, do you:

1. Reach out to offer condolences to the widow.

2. Golf.

And you know he didn’t do 1 and did do 2. Cool.

[canpakes]

Since Trump has been described as a leader, I have a leadership question. It's probably also a basic human decency question too.

If someone is killed by a bullet that is meant for you, while actively supporting you, at an event put on by you, do you:

1. Reach out to offer condolences to the widow.

2. Golf.

Maybe he’s gun shy after his failed attempts in the past:

https://amp.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... phone-call

[Kishkumen]

Hmmmmmm. I wonder where that rhetoric was tested on the public. Hmmm. Let me... nope. Can't think of an example. This is all the way new. Nothign comes to mind. Tin ear brain. There is no way they would do this if had already been done and didn't work.

Don't be coy, Binger. Please, by all means, spell out your claim so we can all hear it. Think of it: there is neither any evidence nor anything to suggest that Biden was responsible for this in any way. If you have an instance in which leading Democrats blamed Trump for something that he was completely unconnected to, I am eager to read it. I would not want to be fair. But I am not going to sit here racking my brains trying to figure out what you may be referring to. I am too tired and have better things to do with my time.