Election Litigation Status

[canpakes]

Check out page 3 (if ‘replies per page’ shows the same for both of us) in the Voter Fraud thread. You stepped in to respond to the question of voter fraud when I posed it to ajax, but only to add that the type of fraud was ‘narrow and targeted’.

keyword "amalgamated", when did "widespread" join the party? and how do resolve your phrase as being something definable for literate people?

It’s all there on that page.

Do you believe that widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election?

[Res Ipsa]

I hadn’t bothered to read Trump’s motion for expedited review that he filed along with his cert petition, so I missed his threat of disruption if he doesn’t get his way. https://electionlawblog.org/?p=119802

I’m not sure how stupid he thinks the Justices are. I guarantee that they all understand that Trump is the source of the threatened disruption. The concept of not negotiating with terrorists comes to mind.

[honorentheos]

I hadn’t bothered to read Trump’s motion for expedited review that he filed along with his cert petition, so I missed his threat of disruption if he doesn’t get his way. https://electionlawblog.org/?p=119802

I’m not sure how stupid he thinks the Justices are. I guarantee that they all understand that Trump is the source of the threatened disruption. The concept of not negotiating with terrorists comes to mind.

“Finally, if this matter is not timely resolved, not only Petitioner, but the Nation as а whole may suffer injury from the resulting confusion. Indeed, the intense national and worldwide attention on the 2020 Presidential election only foreshadows the disruption that may well follow if the uncertainty and unfairness shrouding this election are allowed to persist. The importance of а prompt resolution of the federal constitutional questions presented by this case cannot be overstated.”

Its unfortunate Trump is behaving like a cruel older sibling using the hand of a younger sibling to hit themselves. But if he wants to argue that Supreme Court needs to pull the car over and deal with it or it will just get worse, well...

In all seriousness, yeah, that's insane.

[honorentheos]

keyword "amalgamated", when did "widespread" join the party? and how do resolve your phrase as being something definable for literate people?

It’s all there on that page.

Do you believe that widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election?

Put directly, subbie should clarify if he believes there was a conspiracy to commit voter fraud that resulted in ten or hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes being cast for Biden in swing states. Meaning, he believes fraud occured that was planned and carried out at the scale required to swing the Presidential election targeting the handful of states Trump won in 2016 but lost in 2020.

We should all agree some fraud occurs every election. It can include the widow who filled out and mailed in her deceased husband's ballot in the way she believed he would have filled it out. Or the person who returned a mail in ballot in one state where they used to live. Or a person attempting to vote who doesn't have the right to vote. Or...

But what we shouldn't believe happened given the evidence is that there was a coordinated large scale fraud that caused Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia or Pennsylvania to go Blue in 2020. If subbie believes that, he should own it and then provide actual evidence for it rather than innuendo claiming it.

[canpakes]

It’s all there on that page.

Do you believe that widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election?

Put directly, subbie should clarify if he believes there was a conspiracy to commit voter fraud that resulted in ten or hundreds of thousands of fraudulent votes being cast for Biden in swing states. Meaning, he believes fraud occured that was planned and carried out at the scale required to swing the Presidential election targeting the handful of states Trump won in 2016 but lost in 2020.

We should all agree some fraud occurs every election. It can include the widow who filled out and mailed in her deceased husband's ballot in the way she believed he would have filled it out. Or the person who returned a mail in ballot in one state where they used to live. Or a person attempting to vote who doesn't have the right to vote. Or...

But what we shouldn't believe happened given the evidence is that there was a coordinated large scale fraud that caused Michigan, Wisconsin, Arizona, Georgia or Pennsylvania to go Blue in 2020. If subbie believes that, he should own it and then provide actual evidence for it rather than innuendo claiming it.

Agreed.

At this point, were subs to re-engage, he’d probably take issue with my use of the word, ‘widespread’. I cheekily included it on my response to him based on that being my original question to ajax that subs jumped in on with his claim that the fraud was ‘narrow and targeted’. But his description refers to the type of fraud that he claims occurred, versus my own original question which addresses the scale of any fraud. These are different but not mutually exclusive concepts. Even a ‘narrow and targeted’ action can see widespread deployment, e.g., sniper or guerilla warfare tactics within a military conflict.

As you’re pointing out, some type of fraud will always occur in any large-scale election. But, to claim that coordinated fraud using specific techniques is a different thing, and then to scale that up to a level required to flip a National election by millions of votes across half a dozen states (therefore, widespread) is another level or matter still.

If subs truly believes (1) that widespread fraud - be it narrow and targeted, or broad and nonspecific - occurred and (2) that this requires that he act as an agent of apparent disinformation in pushing that claim, then he should be willing to outright state that he believes widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred. But I don’t expect him to be able to do so, given his usual role as the anarchist wannabe who spreads bad information while committing to no position himself.

[Gadianton]

At this point, were subs to re-engage, he’d probably take issue with my use of the word, ‘widespread’. I cheekily included it on my response to him based on that being my original question to ajax that subs jumped in on with his claim that the fraud was ‘narrow and targeted’.

If he disagrees with your accurate assessment, he'll need to explain how everything from zeroes in birthdate fields, to a heavy increase in Biden ballots during a specific time frame across multiple states, to a guy spotting similar handwriting for write-ins was all part of the same concerted "narrow and targeted" fraud.

I think "widespread targeted fraud" captures what he meant: A shotgun approach, where each individual bb is targeted toward wherever it happens to land.

[subgenius]

keyword "amalgamated", when did "widespread" join the party? and how do resolve your phrase as being something definable for literate people?

It’s all there on that page.

Do you believe that widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election?

cool story, but your dishonesty is showing again...or maybe you're getting senile?
Here is the post you referenced:

Not widespread, but rather narrow and targeted

and my question above still remains...

[canpakes]

It’s all there on that page.

Do you believe that widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election?

cool story, but your dishonesty is showing again...or maybe you're getting senile?
Here is the post you referenced:

Not widespread, but rather narrow and targeted

and my question above still remains...

That’s your comment, when you interjected between ajax and I. But that’s not my question. Also, read my last post before this.

Now, if you want to wriggle up to the top of that molehill to die on, then here’s my same question, formatted to be explicit to your comment:

“Do you believe that narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election, widespread across multiple states, involving millions of votes?”

Or, more simply: Do you believe that widespread use of narrow and targeted voter fraud occurred in this election?

Super-simple question. I can’t imagine why you’re too scared to answer it. ; )

[Doctor CamNC4Me]

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/ ... e-reality/

Even Pat Robertson is telling the orange shitgibbon to move on.

- Doc

[Jersey Girl]

https://www.mediaite.com/election-2020/ ... e-reality/

Even Pat Robertson is telling the orange shitgibbon to move on.

- Doc

On video...

Pat Robertson To Trump: Accept you LOST, and "MOVE ON"
https://www.youtube.com/watch?v=_KCi-vFgYu4

You know, I have little to no respect at all for Pat Robertson. It's a shame that it's taken him so long to speak the truth in light of Trump's tidal wave of offenses over the past 4 years.