Be careful what you wish for.

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Re: Be careful what you wish for.

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Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:21 pm
If a troll um, pisses all over the board and later admits it's an intentional troll, then continues to piss all over the board, is it okay to call it a troll?
Jersey Girl, it might be more respectful of Cultellus’s gender fluidity to use, ‘they/them’, instead of ‘it’.

The better option, then, might be, “… is it okay to call them a troll?”
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Cultellus wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:25 pm
Lem wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:10 pm

This is how you derail a thread. The rules are written, viewable, and have been quoted several times, their application has been discussed many times, RI has responded multiple times as to how the whataboutism of other posters is not relevant, but a derailment ignores all of that, asks exactly the same questions, and throws in a few more personal attacks to boot.

Nothing could be clearer than Cult's intent to disrupt. These are the actions of one who only intends to troll.
Nothing could be clearer than Lem's intent to achieve the status quo, including sheltering hostile language and behavior that suits her. She exclaims this by lobbing yet another disruptive judgment that someone she does not like is a troll.

Lem, I have made this very clear. I will do whatever Shades wants, including being a moderator. I will not submit to your games here, including the obnoxious game that Res Ipsa is playing. pancakes is a pissboy. We are not debating that based on his contribution, we are debating that based on whether or not you like pancakes or french toast. It is not an issue because we cannot say piss or boy down here. It is an issue because you have a culture of sheltering Doc Cam's awful behavior and you cannot address it. You will even call it whataboutism because I will not back off the point.

You shout - "Cultellus is an off-topic troll and does not stop saying that we tolerate a a racist, homosexist bully. Please make him stop."
And I say back, "Uh, well, you seem to want more racist, homosexist bullying so I clearly am not being heard yet."

And we do it again. But when a pissboy just trolls with the rancid smell of Doc Cam's urine, I just call him the pissboy and move on.
Do you actually believe your own BS? How do get from “Shades, please make a change from no moderation in Paradise to moderation that enforces the rules“ to “Shades, please change nothing because I like the status quo.” Go ahead. Explain how your reasoning is rational at all.

You only think I’m playing an obnoxious game because you can’t face up to the fact that you can’t formulate a rational response to my arguments. Nice try, though.
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:42 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:21 pm
If a troll um, pisses all over the board and later admits it's an intentional troll, then continues to piss all over the board, is it okay to call it a troll?
Jersey Girl, it might be more respectful of Cultellus’s gender fluidity to use, ‘they/them’, instead of ‘it’.

The better option, then, might be, “… is it okay to call them a troll?”
Thank you. I bow to your subtle correction!
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Cultellus wrote:
Sun Jul 25, 2021 4:49 pm
…. I am banned at many places for posting exactly as I post here….I am trolling….
:roll: Gee, what a surprise.

Anyway, I wonder what Shades has decided?
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Cultellus wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:27 pm
Jersey Girl wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:21 pm
If a troll um, pisses all over the board and later admits it's an intentional troll, then continues to piss all over the board, is it okay to call it a troll?
Right. Good point. Fair is fair.
As the Hadith has not been transferred from the old board to the new one, we have no written guidance. Perhaps labeling the behavior as trolling rather than the person as troll would be the most prudent course of action.
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Cultellus wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:38 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:35 pm

The rules don’t care whether you think your personal attack is true or I think it is false.
We are kicking this can along at a record pace, Res. I agree. Totally agree.
Ok, if that’s true, then my example is not different than yours.
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Cultellus wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:52 pm
honorentheos wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 4:47 pm
We went through this before when faqs spammed the board. The forum discussion was negatively impacted and this was widely recognized. It led to the creation of the Spirit Prison forum, and it worked.

Given that precedent, it seems like the only issues are around the ability of Shades to moderate on his own versus needing help.
Moderating what?

Let me guess. You want some people moderated but you are too much of a coward to take a stand on the racism, 4Chan, homosexism, homo erotica, personal insults, trolling and overall heinous behavior, including threats or suggestions of doxing, as long as Doc Cam does it and nobody else, except for Some Schmo, Jersey Girl, Res Ipsa, Lem, etc. Oh and Philo can shut down free speech but not Ajax, right?

Was that a good guess?
Here's a good guess. They think that Doc Cam is the nuclear weapon around here. Little do they know they started walking through a mine field from the beginning. I suppose we could provide them with a map so they know where the ED's are buried.

Nah.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:44 pm
Do you actually believe your own BS?
Of course they don’t. Cultellus is not here to have an actual conversation about anything. Cultellus came here only to troll.

There’s no seriousness in any claim otherwise. The bit about ‘standing up for ajax’ was an after the fact excuse that took Cultellus over 300 posts to come up with.

By the way, has Cultellus backed up that bogus claim about doxxing, yet? ; )
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Cultellus wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:59 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:47 pm

As the Hadith has not been transferred from the old board to the new one, we have no written guidance. Perhaps labeling the behavior as trolling rather than the person as troll would be the most prudent course of action.
Another point on which we agree.
Maybe if you’d be willing to summarize where you think we agree we could use that as a foundation to explore what else we agree on.
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canpakes wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 9:01 pm
Res Ipsa wrote:
Wed Aug 11, 2021 8:44 pm
Do you actually believe your own BS?
Of course they don’t. Cultellus is not here to have an actual conversation about anything. Cultellus came here only to troll.

There’s no seriousness in any claim otherwise. The bit about ‘standing up for ajax’ was an after the fact excuse that took Cultellus over 300 posts to come up with.

By the way, has Cultellus backed up that bogus claim about doxxing, yet? ; )
I get the impression that they're afraid of Doc Cam and throwing everything at the wall to see it something'll stick. I dunno about anyone else, but I require empirical evidence for al dente.
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