Right Wing Violence - Media not accountable

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I think this suffers from definition, clumping vs splitting problems. I'm not sure that continuing to feed this myth of universal binarism helps, either.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Sure, if you're cherrypicking what to include in your dataset. You're telling me that every time Antifa or some other variation of a Leftist, Feminist, or racial identity group threatened or engaged in actual use of illegal force and violence as non-state actors to attain a political, economic, religious, or social goal through fear, coercion, or intimidation they made it into the database?

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No one is cherrypicking. Taking a look at all the data, most of the violence comes from right wing sources. Antifa is barely a blip compared to MAGA violence.
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Gray Ghost. You have zero idea what's being included and what's being excluded in the dataset. Answer my question.

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https://www.theguardian.com/us-news/201 ... cide-rates

Inequality predicts homicide rates “better than any other variable”, says Martin Daly, professor emeritus of psychology and neuroscience at McMaster University in Ontario and author of Killing the Competition: Economic Inequality and Homicide.

This includes factors like rates of gun ownership (which also rise when inequality does) and cultural traits like placing more emphasis on “honor” (this, too, turns out to be linked with inequality). “About 60 [academic] papers show that a very common result of greater inequality is more violence, usually measured by homicide rates,” says Richard Wilkinson, author of The Spirit Level and co-founder of the Equality Trust.

According to the FBI, just over half of murders in which the precipitating circumstances were known were set off by what is called the “other argument” – not a robbery, a love triangle, drugs, domestic violence or money, but simply the sense that someone had been dissed.

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Not as simple as right vs left.
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Washington Man Charged In Terror Plot: ‘I’m Shooting For 30 Jews’

The painting in the upper right of the photo. It’s by Jon McNaughton, an LDS artist who mainly paints pro-Trump right wing authoritarian nonsense. It does not surprise me in the least that a white supremacist who threatened to murder 30 Jewish people loves his stuff.

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https://www.wsj.com/articles/man-arrest ... 1554759345

Man Arrested for Allegedly Plotting Truck Terror Attack in Washington Area

Who is Rondell Henry?

https://heavy.com/news/2019/04/rondell-henry/

So, he was inspired by ISIS. He was apparently a smart guy because, you know, he was a computer engineer. He's Muslim, and we know Muslims lean heavily Democratic. So, will this this incident be aggregated to the Global Terrorism Database as a Leftist terror datapoint?

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Trump's racism and hatred isn't just dividing America, it is powerful enough to divide countries abroad too...

Man wearing a Trump shirt abuses people at Christchurch mosque where more than 40 people died

A man wearing a Donald Trump shirt has yelled abuse at members of the Muslim community gathered at one of the mosques targeted in the Christchurch terror attack.

Of the 50 victims killed in the March 15 shootings, more than 40 were at Masjid Al Noor, on Deans Ave. On Wednesday afternoon, a man wearing a shirt supporting United States President Donald Trump turned up outside the mosque and started yelling abuse.

Yasmeenah Safiya, 17, was not there at the time, but heard about it from a friend who was. The friend called her in a distraught state, Yasmeenah said, asking if she had heard what happened.

"She was like, 'a guy just came in wearing a Trump shirt and he was shouting abuse at all of us'."

A post on the Muslims in Christchurch and Canterbury Facebook page said the man was wearing a shirt that said "Trump for New Zealand". A photo showed the man standing beside two police officers in the Trump shirt.

The man was swearing and saying that Muslims were terrorists, according to the post. He also told people at the mosque, people who were still grieving the loss of their loved ones, that "we all need to leave" New Zealand, the post said.

"He was there for about 15 minutes, he also kicked and tried to damage some of the memorial items along Deans Ave in front of the masjid."

Armed police have been stationed outside the mosque since the attack. Police were present while the man was yelling abuse, but did not arrest him. A spokeswoman said officers made the decision not to "potentially inflame the situation at that significant location".

Police were now actively looking for the man. He could face a disorderly behaviour charge, the spokeswoman said.

Many people have returned to the mosque since it re-opened eight days after the attack, but others have been reluctant. One member of the Muslim community, who did not want to be named, said the "racist abuse" from the apparent Trump supporter would only make things worse.

For Yasmeenah, the incident was another example of the prejudice and racism present in New Zealand – something she experienced firsthand on the day of the attack when she was told by a man "you should have been shot".

The 17-year-old was running late for Friday prayers and was on her way to Masjid Al Noor when she started getting messages about the shooting. She pulled over near a Thai restaurant on Riccarton Rd, just around the corner from Deans Ave, and proceeded on foot.

"My best friends were all in there, so I was trying to get inside," she said. Police had already arrived by this point and stopped her getting any closer.

After waiting in a nearby street, Yasmeenah headed back to her car. A "sleazy" white man standing near the restaurant mumbled something at her as she walked past, Yasmeenah said.

"He said some racist thing to me, and then I turned around and said 'what did you say?' And then he said 'you should have got shot as well'."

Yasmeenah was shocked. She was already deeply distressed by what had happened, and couldn't believe what she had just heard.

"I wasn't even thinking about how I felt at that moment. I was more worried about all of my loved ones inside the masjid."

People needed to acknowledge the racism and prejudice that existed in New Zealand, Yasmeenah said.

"I just want the people of New Zealand to know that racism is still here, and it frustrates me when people say that racism is not us because it's been happening for years."
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Nothing more leftist than supporting a theocracy.
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Of COURSE Kevin 'never met a story about racism he doesn't love' Graham jumps on a story about hearsay and rumor and passes it off as fact Worse yet, Muslims have a history of creating false flag narratives to further their da'wah. This is absolutely filthy behavior by him to use the the murders in Christchurch to disparage Trump, when it's not even necessary.

No depth is too low for our resident garbage human being to slum around and wallow in his mental illness. Yet another example of a mean, venal, hateful Leftist trying to shield himself with supposed virtue so they can act out on their sociopathy. Pathetic and foul.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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EAllusion wrote:Nothing more leftist than supporting a theocracy.


Yes yes. Islam has no history with socialism, whatever that means these days because apparently it doesn't exist in whatever form someone says it does, and is limited to EA's breathless explanation how everyone is wrong and he'll set us straight. But first we must witness him argue with himself first :rolleyes:

- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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