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EAllusion wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 1:46 pm
Anyway, contrary to Lemmie, I've taken DT to be sort of reinventing the wheel by coming up with arguments popular in incel-dom because there's just only so many paths available once you've committed to defending certain ideas. Thinking about it now, it's possible he's more crypto-incel than I thought.
What ideas I am defending? Okay I will only look for women over 24. Happy?

I do watch a dating coach on Youtube, I like school of Attraction (He links to studies and numbers). A real incel would never watch dating coach videos on Youtube. An incel isn't trying to be a better person!
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An unwed teen mother is such a small subset of the population that you cannot infer the general behavior of 17 year olds from that cohort. It's a non-sequitur. If that weren't the case, this is also an area where you want to be careful about understanding the difference between mean, median, and mode in making specific claims. Your own link has a section that goes into detail about sexual activity among younger teens frequently having been forced, which isn't a thought that entered your brain when butchering the findings of a different paper. And on an aside, the website you pulled this from also has a different section that estimates, as of 2015, the sexual activity rate among 15-19 year old girls to be 41%, which is just a smidge short of the 100% you assumed to make claims you were.
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EAllusion wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:12 pm
An unwed teen mother is such a small subset of the population that you cannot infer the general behavior of 17 year olds from that cohort.
It is not the general behavior! I agree! I stated that "5%" is common. How do you define "common"? and how do you define "rare"? The numbers are just a hint that it is not rare, some (happy?) 17 year olds do date 20 year old guys. Just out of curiosity, is the Webmd sexists? "3. Ask your partner about his or her sexual history."https://www.webmd.com/genital-herpes/reduce-risk#1

I am just curious. I am honestly tired of arguing back and forth. You win the argument! I will only look for women over 24.
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5% is a number you pulled out of the air, based on nothing, after you gave a much larger number that was based on an egregious misreading of a study you came across somehow. And no, I would not consider 5% "common" in this context. I'd call that rare. If others started talking about how surprisingly common this is or "too common" or whatever, I wouldn't complain, but I would understand that this is an unusual circumstance that doesn't match the life-experience of most people. Here is where it is important to not lose the context of why you are bringing it up in the first place. You are trying to argue that a 20 something male having a desire to have sex with females of that age group is normal and ordinary - heck - the inevitable result of evolutionary pressure on the male brain. If the number were 5%, that would not be support of your position. It'd be the opposite. But we don't know that it's 5%, because that's just a number you made up.
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EAllusion wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:35 pm
You are trying to argue that a 20 something male having a desire to have sex with females of that age group is normal
What I am trying to say is that I have no interest in 17 year olds. Dating a 17 year old is not wrong or illegal (my state), but I decided not to. You see no one is forcing me, I made the decision on my own. I am only interested in adults. Your Ephebophilia theory isn't correct and was not appropriate. [/quote]
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5% is a number you pulled out of the air, based on nothing, after you gave a much larger number that was based on an egregious misreading of a study you came across somehow.
Maybe, but it is consistent with the teen pregnancy numbers (if you look at it as a sample) and I do know older guys that dated a 17 year old. You have no evidence that a lot of 18 year olds are breaking the law (felony) with 15 year olds. But it don't matter, I can't prove that some 17 year olds are dating older guys.
EAllusion wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 2:35 pm
If the number were 5%, that would not be support of your position. It'd be the opposite. But we don't know that it's 5%, because that's just a number you made up.
17 and 20 year olds are usually not in the same school and the legal age of consent is 18 in some states (California). I say 5% is the minimum. How old were you when you dated a 17 year old?
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Lemmie wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 9:45 am
Note the very specific language about women with 5+ lifetime sexual partner

That is the most idiotic thing I have ever read. That is everywhere on the internet, including a news article about cancer. "that women who reported more than five lifetime sexual partners"

Lemmie needs to stop it with the incel nonsense.
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Dr. Shades wrote:
Thu May 07, 2020 6:12 am
DoubtingThomas: Remember when I urged you to quit reading and discussing studies?

Did what I say go in one ear and out the other?

EAllusion, don't encourage him!!
I retire!
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