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Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 5:22 pm
by _asbestosman
part 1
part 2
part 3
part 4
part 5
part 6
part 7
part 8
I agree that our inability to understand exponential growth is a huge problem in people grasping the situation as to why global warming won't really matter.
I'm expecially interested in Coggins' comments.
Re: Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 7:36 pm
by _Who Knows
asbestosman wrote:part 1part 2part 3part 4part 5part 6part 7part 8I agree that our inability to understand exponential growth is a huge problem in people grasping the situation as to why global warming won't really matter.
I'm expecially interested in Coggins' comments.
Perhaps global warming is nature's way of controlling the exponential growth?
Thanks for posting. I only got through the first 3 for now, but it's very mind-blowing. The example about the bacteria in the bottle doubling every minute was very powerful (what time would they realize they were in trouble?).
Poor guy though, no one laughed at his gall bladder joke.
Re: Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Tue Jul 24, 2007 8:53 pm
by _Mercury
asbestosman wrote:I'm expecially interested in Coggins' comments.
Yes, because coggins comments will be concise and scientific...snicker snicker.
Re: Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:09 am
by _Tarski
asbestosman wrote:part 1part 2part 3part 4part 5part 6part 7part 8I agree that our inability to understand exponential growth is a huge problem in people grasping the situation as to why global warming won't really matter.
I'm expecially interested in Coggins' comments.
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What this all about? Global warming doesn't matter>?
Re: Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 4:53 am
by _Tarski
Tarski wrote:asbestosman wrote:part 1part 2part 3part 4part 5part 6part 7part 8I agree that our inability to understand exponential growth is a huge problem in people grasping the situation as to why global warming won't really matter.
I'm expecially interested in Coggins' comments.
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What this all about? Global warming doesn't matter>?
Oh, I think I see.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 6:03 am
by _barrelomonkeys
I watched a show on the Nova channel the other day and scientists were saying we were going to slowly be engulfed by the sun as the sun becomes larger and larger. Either way we'll be toasty.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 5:38 pm
by _Tarski
barrelomonkeys wrote:I watched a show on the Nova channel the other day and scientists were saying we were going to slowly be engulfed by the sun as the sun becomes larger and larger. Either way we'll be toasty.
"We" may not even exist or be human by that time "5 billion years from now". That's a long time for evolution to work.
I don't think it is a consideration.
Posted: Fri Jul 27, 2007 7:07 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
Well that's a relief. I'll find something else to fret about now. Any suggestions?
Re: Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:22 am
by _asbestosman
Tarski wrote:Tarski wrote:What this all about? Global warming doesn't matter>?
Oh, I think I see.
Probably. My point is that we'll run out of resources (or at least feel the effects of the cruch) long before we'll feel the effects of global warming. My personal opinion is that the former is more pressing than the latter and that the former is even less debateable than the global warming thing.
Persaonally I've pretty much given up hope and think we'll almost certainly be heading for a global energy crisis followed by war, famine, and pesitilence. That doesn't mean I'm not trying to do anything, but I just don't think my personal contribution will amount to more than a drop in the ocean.
It really struck me how the good things like healthcare only make the problem worse. Birthcontrol, while perhaps the best of the bad options, is still too politically incorrect. Besides, I'm not sure how our economy could handle a world without growth. It's starting to hurt Asia (China and Japan) if I've heard correctly.
Re: Why Global Warming doesn't matter: mathematical evidence
Posted: Mon Jul 30, 2007 4:26 am
by _barrelomonkeys
asbestosman wrote:Tarski wrote:Tarski wrote:What this all about? Global warming doesn't matter>?
Oh, I think I see.
Probably. My point is that we'll run out of resources (or at least feel the effects of the cruch) long before we'll feel the effects of global warming. My personal opinion is that the former is more pressing than the latter and that the former is even less debateable than the global warming thing.
Persaonally I've pretty much given up hope and think we'll almost certainly be heading for a global energy crisis followed by war, famine, and pesitilence. That doesn't mean I'm not trying to do anything, but I just don't think my personal contribution will amount to more than a drop in the ocean.
It really struck me how the good things like healthcare only make the problem worse. Birthcontrol, while perhaps the best of the bad options, is still too politically incorrect. Besides, I'm not sure how our economy could handle a world without growth. It's starting to hurt Asia (China and Japan) if I've heard correctly.
The growth is slow in all of the industrialized nations. The only reason we don't see the effects here is because of the immigration of new citizens. There are programs set up in a few countries that try to give incentives for couples to have children.
China doesn't have a problem with growth. Their problem is they are going to have a very large population of males and not females in a number of years due to their one child policy.
Japan does have a slow growth rate... but it's an industrialized nation.
*edited because I wrote once child policy insteady of one child policy*