In the Provo Craigslist "Rants and Raves" section, someone put up a rant titled "Guys Suck."
Why the “F” can't guys just say what they want? If you “F” a girl and don't want to actually call her your girlfriend, fine, say so. Believe it or not, most girls are OK with that if they weren't your girlfriend before the sex. Freaking out and getting weird doesn't do a damn thing except make you both regret what was really great sex to begin with. I know a lot of guys have that whole typical fear of commitment thing, but that's no reason to be paranoid and think that every girl out there is looking for a commitment. Especially if she damn well knows you aren't reliable to begin with. Sometimes sex is just sex, and that's ok!
To which, I responded:
Why aren't guys honest?
Because we're trained from birth to be told that all women are special, and that our normal desires are sick, bad, and twisted, and we should never ever let anyone know what horrible horrible people we are on the inside.
So guys will lie, cheat, and manipulate, all to avoid the pain of being honest with ourselves and with women. And why is that? Because YOU told us that you want "nice guys." We've been trained by women to be pussies, and now the women are pissed that we're not actually men.
Well, women, you got what you wanted out of the feminism movement -- men are wimps, afraid of you at all times, you have complete control. If you don't like it, then it's time for you to reverse the damage you did -- start telling your secrets. Tell men the truth of what it is you really want. Allow yourself to be charmed, woo'ed, and seduced. You broke him, you fix him.
And lo and behold, not five minutes after I posted that, she came back swinging:
'Allow' myself to be charmed, woo'ed, and seduced? WTF? You didn't even read the post, did you? NEITHER of us wanted a relationship. Not me, and certainly not him.
As far as being honest, I always am. I have few if any secrets from people I am close with. And I do have to be close to someone to sleep with them, regardless of relationship status. I'm clear about what I want but know better than to be pushy.
You don't know crap about me and your post doesn't have anything at all to do with mine, so why are you even attempting to put the Re: in front? Let it stand alone and don't pretend to be replying to anything I've said, cause you haven't.
Hehe! I pushed a button! So I sent her an e-mail with the subject "So defensive!"
It's interesting that you tried to point out all the parts of my post
that didn't fit your situation, while completely ignoring the parts
that did. But I suppose being told off anonymously online is too big
of a dent in your ego to just let slide.
How about we go out for coffee, and continue this rigourous discussion
somewhere less hostile?
Leave the weapons at home, though.
And now I have a date on sunday.
Women, you are all certifiably insane.