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Some Ex-LDS Men Are Immature Morons!
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 2:32 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
Please take a looksie at the avatar you see to the left. This is an Art Frahm panties girl. Art Frahm studies the effects of celery on gravity. It's quite a serious topic and as you all know I'm a serious type of gal -- and therefore I thought she was just one of my many perfect avatars.
Edited!
Please vote according to your conscience. Thanks. ;)
~~~~Edited for clarification~~~~
I was accused of being 'flirty' with my personality and my avatars. I was told that I was trolling the internet to seduce men. *sigh*
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:47 pm
by _Bond...James Bond
I voted for the second....but I think most people who grew up in a religion which preaches archaic sexual guilt will be sexually repressed. I'm among them.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 3:59 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
Perhaps the problem I encounter on this board is that I grew up with absolutely no guilt associated with sexuality. I was never taught that it was a sin -- sexuality was normal and something we should embrace and enjoy. Obviously growing up in Japan contributed that sense to me greatly.
The entire titillation that others apparently see from absurd things (I view them as silly) just stuns me. Of course I've known many people in my life that don't consider sexuality taboo and don't get turned on by inuendos and silliness. But of course those were people that were enjoying their sexuality right along with me and weren't indoctrinated with this sense of sexuality as a forbidden pleasure. There was nothing forbidden in it. You wanted to enjoy your body by yourself or with your partner that was just part of enjoying life.
I DO get pissed when people prescribe motives to my personality, and my avatars. I've ALWAYS been sexually liberated and embraced it -- that others view me the way they do speaks of their hangups. I bristle at anyone saying that I'm trolling for men on the internet. It is just ludicrous! Really, really ludicrous.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:01 pm
by _silentkid
Bond...James Bond wrote:I voted for the second....but I think most people who grew up in a religion which preaches archaic sexual guilt will be sexually repressed. I'm among them.
Thanks, Bond. I totally agree with this. I grew up in a Mormon household. Pre-marital sex is a no-no. Masturbation is a no-no. Watching porn is a no-no. Watching R-rated films is a no-no (never because of violence, only because of nudity or sex). When I had girlfriends in college, I always felt guilty making out with them. It would never get to the point of sex because we were all good Mormons going to BYU. No one wants to have to confess to the bishop. Nobody wants to commit the sin second only to murder. So, I never had sex...imagine that in society today. A college student who has never had sex. Book of Mormon...have you seen the movie 40 year-old virgin? Subtract 8 years and you have me. That's damned ridiculous and uncomfortable. My belief in Mormonism screwed up my notions of sex. I took that Spencer W. Kimball crap literally. I'm paying for it now. A 32 year-old trying to get caught up.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:32 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
silentkid wrote:Book of Mormon...have you seen the movie 40 year-old virgin? Subtract 8 years and you have me. That's damned ridiculous and uncomfortable. My belief in Mormonism screwed up my notions of sex. I took that Spencer W. Kimball crap literally. I'm paying for it now. A 32 year-old trying to get caught up.
I get it! I have gotten it, and tried to be oh soooo very patient. Yet, when others view me, and my personality, as some seductress out to seduce random men on the internet it hurts me. It's just me! I'm not some woman sitting here plotting to entice men, or have cyber sex with them (as someone accused me of) and it stunned me that others would view me in that manner? Then it just made me pissed.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:36 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
Let me just add this. If I like a man, and I mean I like him, I want to share my sexuality with him. I want to experience that with him as it is a marvelous thing to experience with someone that I care for and feel passionate about. I love those moments and they're incredibly special to me. That others would assume that I just am going about willy nilly finding whomever to play with is something that doesn't make sense to me?
But, perhaps that too is the way sex is viewed by those that grew up in the Church. I see nothing wrong with tumbling into bed with some man that can bring me joy, and I him joy, in those experiences. It's nothing to be shamed of - no one hurting the other one. No one taking advantage. No one a victim... it's just two people experiencing what is in our very nature to experience.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:45 pm
by _silentkid
barrelomonkeys wrote:I get it! I have gotten it, and tried to be oh soooo very patient. Yet, when others view me, and my personality, as some seductress out to seduce random men on the internet it hurts me. It's just me! I'm not some woman sitting here plotting to entice men, or have cyber sex with them (as someone accused me of) and it stunned me that others would view me in that manner? Then it just made me pissed.
I've never viewed you as a seductress or as someone trolling the net for men or cybersex. I understand your frustration with those who may think this way. It's unfair and judgmental. I was responding more to the title of the thread (I think I"m mixing up sexually immature with sexually inexperienced), the part about exmos being sexually immature morons. I was frustrated by comments made in a telestial forum thread where one poster said she'd rather have sex with herself than with someone who is "inexperienced". That's the kind of crap that pisses me off. It's like the old conundrum of not being able to get a job because you have no experience and not being able to get experience because you have no job.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:53 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
silentkid wrote:barrelomonkeys wrote:I get it! I have gotten it, and tried to be oh soooo very patient. Yet, when others view me, and my personality, as some seductress out to seduce random men on the internet it hurts me. It's just me! I'm not some woman sitting here plotting to entice men, or have cyber sex with them (as someone accused me of) and it stunned me that others would view me in that manner? Then it just made me pissed.
I've never viewed you as a seductress or as someone trolling the net for men or cybersex. I understand your frustration with those who may think this way. It's unfair and judgmental. I was responding more to the title of the thread (I think I"m mixing up sexually immature with sexually inexperienced), the part about exmos being sexually immature morons. I was frustrated by comments made in a telestial forum thread where one poster said she'd rather have sex with herself than with someone who is "inexperienced". That's the kind of crap that pisses me off. It's like the old conundrum of not being able to get a job because you have no experience and not being able to get experience because you have no job.
Oh, I hope I didn't say that?? I don't think I did. I have empathy for those of you that were indoctrinated to be hesitant about sex. I think the worst thing the Church teaches is the masturbation taboo. It's terribly harmful to the natural experience of learning about ourselves before we go about experiencing pleasure with others. How horrid to think of something so natural as a 'sin' that you must confess.
I think everyone should probably take a deep breath and think of sex in this manner, 'It's fun! No such thing as bad sex!' Inexperienced sex is fun too! First time sex is marvelous. 10000th time sex is marvelous. Laying with your partner just touching is marvelous. Exploring and learning together is marvelous. When you take the scare out of it then it can be embraced as something natural and beautiful. I'm sorry so many of you suffer from this. I've witnessed it in my home with my step-son and I despaired for him!
I wish us all loving, passionate, sex and much happiness in the future. :)
I'm glad you don't view me that way. I was stunned when I was told that this is the way men viewed me on this board by a male poster.
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:57 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
Another addendum. ;)
Nothing really wrong with inexperience, as long as you can feel comfortable with your partner. Trust that you care for each other and explore together.
Oh, shoot, I'm sorry I came off as so harsh. Geez, now I wanna fall in love with a sexually repressed LDS man and help him overcome his fears. ;P
Posted: Thu Nov 15, 2007 5:58 pm
by _barrelomonkeys
It's all in the brain. Not anywhere else. It's all mental.
Okay, I'll stop now.