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A Crier for President?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:37 pm
by _KimberlyAnn
Does the fact that Hillary cried make her unfit to be President? Apart from her politics, does crying alone mean she can't do the job?
Or, is the argument that a crier shouldn't be President purely sexist B.S.?
Curious to see what y'all think,
KA
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:40 pm
by _Ren
What was she crying about? (Sorry if that seems like a daft question, but I haven't heard about this...)
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 2:46 pm
by _KimberlyAnn
A couple of different things, I think.
One tear or two fell when she talked about how hard running a campaign has been, but that it was worth it because she loved her country.
I'm not sure about the other incident, but the crying wasn't sobbing or anything, just a tear or two, if that.
Some folks say it could have been calculated crying to counter her sometimes harsh image.
KA
Re: A Crier for President?
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:18 pm
by _Dr. Shades
KimberlyAnn wrote:Does the fact that Hillary cried make her unfit to be President?
I don't see the connection.
Apart from her politics, does crying alone mean she can't do the job?
Again, I see no connection.
Or, is the argument that a crier shouldn't be President purely sexist B.S.?
Is anyone saying that? If so, I think it's purely sexist B.S.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 3:29 pm
by _Ren
Ahh ok. What came into my head when you said 'crying' was probably a little strong...
I think the particular circumstances could alter my opinion somewhat. Certainly if I genuinely thought they were 'faked' in some way.
...but in principle, I don't see that it would have much to do with anything. If anything, I might view it as a positive.
John 11:35
Not that my opinion as a Brit matters much mind :)
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:05 pm
by _Always Thinking
I don't think that her crying episode would mean that she is unfit to be president. I'm betting that she is good at controlling her emotions, though. There is a very distinct possibility, though, that her public tears recently were calculated for effect.
If she were like me, and truly cried easily, I would say that could be a problem. But I can't even imagine she is like that. Depending on the situation, I am utterly worthless once the tears start to flow. It is something I truly hate about myself. My fifth grade teacher said to me, in total frustration, "Good grief, I can't even look at you cross eyed, because you start crying!" I would never make it as president, that's for sure.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:32 pm
by _KimberlyAnn
I agree, AT, that an emotional basket case (LIKE ME!) wouldn't make a good President. I cry easily sometimes, too. I try not to, as it infuriates my husband, and I do a good job of hiding it when I do.
KA
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 4:47 pm
by _skippy the dead
KimberlyAnn wrote:I'm not sure about the other incident, but the crying wasn't sobbing or anything, just a tear or two, if that.
I think the second time was when she met up with a former dear law school classmate that she hadn't seen for a good long time. Doubtful that it was politically calculated.
I have no problem with the tears. People are making a big deal about it just because she is woman. Do you see the same people questioning George Bush's leadership every time he has cried in public (and he has)? Nope. Tears + Woman = Unstable President for some. That's BS. Those folks should get back to discussing her cleavage or some other similarly important part of her candidacy. [/sarcasm]
And hell - I'll take a woman with tears over a man who has God telling him to invade middle eastern countries any day.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:49 pm
by _asbestosman
Well, crying is better than losing your temper. Still, I think it can be indicative of not having enough control over your emotions. It can also be indicative of being caring, sympathetic, etc. I would be surprised if Hilary didn't have good emotional control actually. I'm more concerned whether the first incident was calculated to gain sympathy points. While that would be a big turn-off, I think all politicians are calculating so it's not going to be any worse than the rest of the bozos who are running.
Bush cried? What were the circumstances? Not that it will matter. I don't exactly like him that much either way.
Posted: Wed Feb 06, 2008 7:58 pm
by _personage
If the fact that someone cries makes them unfit for the office Mitt is unfit also. I have heard him admit to doing it. He was so upset when the Kimball revealed that black men could hold the priesthod he said he pulled his car over and wept.