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asbestosman wrote:

Coggins7 wrote:1. First, however, perhaps God should reign fire and brimstone down on all those hip, affluent, socially conscious liberals who saw to it that over 30 million of those poor Africans died needlessly of Maleria over the past 35 years or so.

What on earth are you talking about?

Environmentalists got DDT banned. DDT killed mosquitos. Mosquitos carry malaria. Malaria kills millions needlessly because DDT could have killed the carriers. The details get niggled over.

asbestosman wrote:

Coggins7 wrote:1. First, however, perhaps God should reign fire and brimstone down on all those hip, affluent, socially conscious liberals who saw to it that over 30 million of those poor Africans died needlessly of Maleria over the past 35 years or so.

What on earth are you talking about?

If you are a Liberal, and particularly, a Liberal given to environmental fevers, you probably do not want to go there with me Asbestos.

I thought he was referring to those who have the means to impact the poor and choose to live the good life instead. But I could be wrong about that. He may be simply beating on his one-note drum again.

I meant exactly what I said. It was the United States, under EPA directer William Rickelshaus, in cahoots with American environmentalist fanatics the U.N., that banned DDT, the safest and most effective mosquito repellent known to man then and now, because of junk science stoked fears of environmental collapse fanned primarily by a scientific hack and ideologue by the name of Rachael Carson. Because of this, the rich, while, decadent, effete, navel gazing American and western world pulled back from the brink of the virtual complete eradication of malaria from the Third World to helplessly watch it come roaring back again where it had been literally wiped out.

This is just one of the moral and cultural catastrophes the Sixties brought us: a stubborn inability to make moral distinctions between man and nature and the hysterical, phantasmagorical fears of chemicals and technology that only those suitably embedded within the warm, protective womb of generations of peace, prosperity, and pervasive affluence that appear to be a birthright to rising generations, can afford to indulge at the expense of the noble savages who still live within nature without the protections afforded by modern democratic capitalism and the technology we have been taught to fear and loath in the name of "saving the earth", as if it needs saving.

uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

Moniker wrote:uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

No. It was banned for alleged environmental reasons.

Jersey Girl wrote:

Moniker wrote:uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

No. It was banned for alleged environmental reasons.

My understanding was that the mosquitoes that survived reproduced rapidly and their offspring were likewise resistant. That was my understanding of why 3rd world countries stopped with the spraying. That it just wasn't effective.

Moniker wrote:

Jersey Girl wrote:

Moniker wrote:uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

No. It was banned for alleged environmental reasons.

My understanding was that the mosquitoes that survived reproduced rapidly and their offspring were likewise resistant. That was my understanding of why 3rd world countries stopped with the spraying. That it just wasn't effective.

I thought you were referring to the US ban.

Moniker wrote:uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

Yes, they did, primarily from improper and overuse. However, the aversion effect on them never ceased, and this is why, just last year, WHO supported the reinstitution of spraying, and why some African countries are simply defying the U.N. and its NGO ideologues and producing and spraying it anyway.

It works, and its the safest pesticide that ever been created. It was poured over concentration camp victims to kill lice at the end of WWII, with no ill effects. Indeed, it was eaten by experimental subjects with no lasting ill effects in at least one test.

Its presence in groundwater, soil, and other areas was a consequence of the massive use of the chemical on large scale crops, a use for which it was not intended. It was suspected of thinning the egg shells of sea birds and raptors, but this was never demonstrated empirically (and, even if it had been, would the sacrifice of millions of human beings to the lives of birds been morally justifiable?).

Jersey Girl wrote:

Moniker wrote:

Jersey Girl wrote:

Moniker wrote:uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

No. It was banned for alleged environmental reasons.

My understanding was that the mosquitoes that survived reproduced rapidly and their offspring were likewise resistant. That was my understanding of why 3rd world countries stopped with the spraying. That it just wasn't effective.

I thought you were referring to the US ban.

I didn't mention a ban... I mentioned DDT losing effectiveness.

Jersey Girl wrote:

Moniker wrote:

Jersey Girl wrote:

Moniker wrote:uh... Why is this thread about DDT?

Coggies, I thought DDT lost its effectiveness because the mosquitoes became resistant when it was used?

No. It was banned for alleged environmental reasons.

My understanding was that the mosquitoes that survived reproduced rapidly and their offspring were likewise resistant. That was my understanding of why 3rd world countries stopped with the spraying. That it just wasn't effective.

I thought you were referring to the US ban.

Well forget me...I'm obviously posting while insane. Of course, you didn't refer to banning at all.

Sheesh.