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Due to personal health concerns and the psychological hemorrhoid that is the constant accusations of abuse and consistant redundancy polluting what was once a very nice Celestial forum, I'm taking a hiatus. Perhaps when I come back in a few weeks points will have finally been gotten, or at page 45 of the blasted post, we'll be clear about who said what.

I see an attempt to alter and undermine the purpose of this board. I know that the originators won't really let that happen, but I'm putting it on the record. The very scent of the Celestial forum has changed. You used to be able to go there and talk about a spiritual experience you had, or your personal beleifs. Along came a group of people determined to tell you that your thoughts were illogical, and they did it with colorful words and bolded letters. Now that they're getting spanked by believers, accusations of abuse fly, the door to the Celestial kingdom needs to be guarded, and only special, truly intelligent people need enter.

This is one to many things on my plate right now. Much respect to those people on here who do not hide behind the pretense of uber-intelliegence. There are so many wise, knowledgable folk on here who don't need to trumpet it around. It shows in how you carry yourself. That's pretty damn cool, you don't need to list every book you've read, class you've taught, and discourse you've written in order for people to know that you know what you're talking about. Only the truly insecure have to go on and on about nonsense like that.

I'll see you in a few weeks. Either as a mod or as a regular Jane Schmoe, depending on what the verdict from what our reigning queen will be, as I've made a petition for her to flog me as needed for offending the royal nostrils.

Enjoy the board!

Well, I certainly don't hide behind anything. I'm happy to illustrate my denseness for board denizens. :)

Have a good break and I look forward to seeing your posts when you return, GIMR.

Sam Harris wrote:Due to personal health concerns and the psychological hemorrhoid that is the constant accusations of abuse and consistant redundancy polluting what was once a very nice Celestial forum, I'm taking a hiatus. Perhaps when I come back in a few weeks points will have finally been gotten, or at page 45 of the blasted post, we'll be clear about who said what.

I see an attempt to alter and undermine the purpose of this board. I know that the originators won't really let that happen, but I'm putting it on the record. The very scent of the Celestial forum has changed. You used to be able to go there and talk about a spiritual experience you had, or your personal beleifs. Along came a group of people determined to tell you that your thoughts were illogical, and they did it with colorful words and bolded letters. Now that they're getting spanked by believers, accusations of abuse fly, the door to the Celestial kingdom needs to be guarded, and only special, truly intelligent people need enter.

This is one to many things on my plate right now. Much respect to those people on here who do not hide behind the pretense of uber-intelliegence. There are so many wise, knowledgable folk on here who don't need to trumpet it around. It shows in how you carry yourself. That's pretty damn cool, you don't need to list every book you've read, class you've taught, and discourse you've written in order for people to know that you know what you're talking about. Only the truly insecure have to go on and on about nonsense like that.

I'll see you in a few weeks. Either as a mod or as a regular Jane Schmoe, depending on what the verdict from what our reigning queen will be, as I've made a petition for her to flog me as needed for offending the royal nostrils.

Enjoy the board!

And once again you are continuuing to post harassment posts. Your whole post is one big fat fallacious ad hom. FYI, I've already said I'm not going to invest time and energy to post in the Celestial knowing how poorly it will be moderated. That's not a heavily properly moderated forum. And that's how this started in the first place. Kevin was the biggest violator as far as lacing just about every single post and line within each post with ad homs. One time someone tells him he's not being truthful and he asks a mod to move the thread to terrestial. I enquired of shades what the problem was and was informed lots of people had complained to him of that thread. As it turns out it wasn't JAK, myself or GoodK who complained, the complainers were people like yourself, Kevin, the very people who dish out the most ad homs in the first place when they argue and the people who have an agenda to harass. Jersey Girl while she didn't intend for the thread to be moved supported it, and she too was one who complained but prob. about kevin. I have no idea whether Shades cares what happens. But if this board is going to be run and controlled by moderators who harass, who moderate with blatant bias, who are going to allow and encourage fallacious argumentation, I'm not going to invest in it.

This has nothing to with uber-intelligence this has to do with honesty and integrity which you appear to lack, given your penchant for interjecting your attack posts into threads (based on long time ago personal grievances which you are incapable of letting go), as well as your continuance of starting threads for the sole purpose of harrassment. Don't give the excuse of migraines or personal health issues and play the viictim here. This was a concerted effort on your part which had nothing to do with health issues but everything to do with hate, bias, lack of integrity given your recent vicious nasty attacks.

Why do I feel like I'm dealing with juliann all over again?

Marg,

I was going to PM you, but that would add more fuel to your fire and feelings of being so misused by me.

I'm going to put this quietly and plainly. Do NOT speak on my health issues, because you don't know what they are. I am not playing the victim, dear I am a survivor. I actually pity you that you would take issue with that.

Now, I'm going to explain to you....slowly...what I'm talking about so you don't further ruin your reputation here with regards to your attitude.

With regards to my health. And I don't need your pity, I've been dealing with this for what will be a year in a few weeks.

On the 18th of April of last year I had a stroke sitting at my desk at work. I was 25. It was stress-related, and also due to a birth defect, I have now come to learn. I am putting this here not for your pity (though you will look stupid if you keep on about me being a victim after I've posted this, stop while you're ahead, ok?). Dealing with folks who want to turn a board into their own playground, belittle others, and tell others that they don't "belong" somewhere gets under my skin.

Now, in case you don't remember, my screen name used to be something else. It is now my real name. In protest to something that happened to someone else on here not to long ago. We have an asshole on here who likes to call folks cowards for not posting their real information. I'm not a fan of Sam Harris. I was born Sam Harris. If you're so brilliant, put the pieces togther.

I'm taking a vacation, because I'm not bursting another blood vessel dealing with the nonsense on here. I have that right. YOU have no right to tell me what my health situation is, or what I've dealt with. Don't cry "attack" when you are sitting there typing to someone who faces her mortality regularly (and who is probably half your age) that there is nothing wrong with them and they are looking for an excuse.

You are playing with fire. Do not try to tell me what my personal life is like because of a thread. It's a thread, Marg. If my brain is leaking blood in miniscule amounts and dealing with stress of any kind makes it worse, I can move on. If stress makes it so I cannot eat, sleep, function at work and pay my bills, I have every right to move on.

I didn't post this entirely because of you. What's that song? "You're so vain, you probably think this song is about you...". In your inaugural speech on your goddess/or whatever entity you are since there is no God thread you spoke of this place being an addiction. It may be ok for you to have this place be an addiction, but it's not for me.

You can assume I'm a dumbass. Actually I'm just devious enough to play the village idiot until you walk ahead of me, and then I'll cut the tendons behind your knees. I may not have all the abbreviations behind my name that you do, but I've also had to deal with far more setbacks than you. And that I know. No person can deal with extreme hardship and be as pompous as you, Marg.

I posted my exit thread because there are actually people on here who would worry if they hadn't heard from me...because THEY know that tomorrow is never promised to me. Dealing with your little clique has raised my stress level and blood pressure to a dangerous level. I'm taking a much-needed break, and probably you will enjoy that.

But you will never again tell me about my health if you want to continue to see what you think is the side of GIMR/Sam Harris that you can spit on in contempt. Because if you dare to speak on it again I will make your eyes bleed. Don't go there. Seriously, don't go there. You owe me an apology in that you mocked my dealing with my mortality daily. I don't expect you to give it, but I do expect you to act like the woman of integrity you so claim to be and NEVER EVER EVER AGAIN speak on that which has completely turned my life upside down this past year. Ok?

Thank you.

Sam,

I am not interested in anything about you. And as long as you don't bring up excuses for your behavior, when all along you have been the instigator not the victim, I won't mention them. If you do and I decide to respond expect whatever excuses you use to be mentioned.

No one has been attacking you, you have been the aggressor on numerous occasions, including this very thread you set up.

Let's get real here, this thread was not set up by you as just an exit post - it was set up as another attack post. And every single time you post you continue to attack. You are not the innocent victim.

I haven't been writing numerous posts in the off topic forum attacking you, using vulgar language but you've been doing that to me.

I didn't set up a thread as a theoretical trap to piss on posters I didn't like, but you've done that to me and some others

I didn't set up this thread and use it to attack you, you attacked me.

I'm not part of a clique, but it looks like you are part of one on here..the mods.

So you are not the victim, you have been the verbal abuser not vice versa as far as message boards go.

How the hell are you going to follow me claiming I'm abusing you?

I've interacted with you more in one week than I have in two years. I asked you to not be a bitch and comment on my health. People like you have too much life to live, I swear. You waste it on rediculous things like THREADS! And who has the last word (you will on this one). You couldn't do that, you couldn't shut up about my health, could you? Keep it up...I'm on my way out of that which you don't want me to be in, and when I get free, I'll be more free to talk then you think I am now. I warned you.

You followed me on this thread. You would do so if I started others, but I really don't like how they're catering to you here.

This is what's really going on around here...you'd think that we had the president in suite!

Luke 15:4 (emphasis and additions mine)

4 “What man of you, having a hundred sheep, if he loses one of them, does not leave the ninety-seven in the wilderness, and go after the three which are lost until he finds it?

If it were me, I'd say the hell with those three sheep. They want to wander off and make their own little clique/tribe...let them.

Give it a break guys before my heart explodes.

Imwashingmypirate wrote:Give it a break guys before my heart explodes.

Pirate you have not been following nor understand what is going on. Please refrain from commenting unless you are ready for me to make comments about you doing this.

You have indicated you are not up to arguments, so I suggest you stay out of them.

okay dokey. It just appears that you are going around in circles. Gotta go get ready. Byeeeeee