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Information Production: I vote in favor or against this...
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:03 am
by _cksalmon
Matter and energy all by themselves cannot produce information.
Discuss.
Re: Information Production: I vote in favor or against this...
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 1:50 am
by _skippy the dead
Oh dear. I wouldn't know where to start. Is this something I'm supposed to be drunk for?
Re: Information Production: I vote in favor or against this...
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 2:36 am
by _cksalmon
skippy the dead wrote:Oh dear. I wouldn't know where to start. Is this something I'm supposed to be drunk for?
Unlike most occasions (family get-togethers, work, dating, posting on MB's, weddings, grant proposals, high school reunions, etc.), sobriety might actually be beneficial here.
I take no firm stand.
PS. I would add to the above list: novelizing movie scripts.
Re: Information Production: I vote in favor or against this...
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 4:21 am
by _cksalmon
The debatable point here is that random mutation does not lead to an increase in actual information because information presupposes language, meaning, syntax, and intention.
I may have those grammatical concepts backwards.
I'm listening to a pro-ID presentation at the moment. Yes, I will reveal it.
I am only interested in reasoned responses, come whence they may. Again, I don't take the thesis as truth. I'm hoping that better minds than mine will weigh in.
Frankly, it seems a bit too simplistic at this point. Just trying to form a reasoned opinion, for the moment.
At this point, the thesis is, "Matter and energy all by themselves cannot produce information."
Commentary?
Chris
Re: Information Production: I vote in favor or against this...
Posted: Wed Aug 20, 2008 6:10 am
by _Dr. Shades
According to your presenters, what is "information?"