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The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 7:48 am
by _bcspace
Check out the accomplishments of local hero, Hugo Chavez......

To win allies and forge an anti-American front, Mr Chavez sells oil to friendly countries at low prices. Ironically, the only big customer buying Venezuelan oil at the full market price is the United States, which the president routinely denounces as the "Empire".

"As production falls, the sales to the US become more important," said Pietro Donatello, an oil analyst from Latin Petroleum in the capital, Caracas. "Only the US is paying the full amount for Venezuelan oil and in cash, the rest are in some kind of barter agreements."


Meanwhile, Mr Chavez has given PDVSA countless new tasks. "The new PDVSA is central to the social battle for the advance of our country," said Rafael Ramirez, the company's president and the minister for petroleum. "We have worked to convert PDVSA into a key element for the social battle."

The company now grows food after Mr Chavez's price controls emptied supermarket shelves of products like milk and eggs. Another branch produces furniture and domestic appliances in an effort to stem the flow of imports. What PDVSA seems unable to do is produce more oil.


All this means that Venezuela has missed much of the benefit from the oil boom and, now that prices are falling, Mr Chavez faces huge financial problems. Nobody is sure at what point his government would be unable to pay its bills, but most sources consulted believe this would probably happen if oil falls to $80 a barrel. Yesterday, oil was trading at $79.80.


Venezuela's oil output slumps under Hugo Chavez

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Mon Oct 13, 2008 10:22 am
by _Angus McAwesome
Now why is it this story makes me smile? Oh, right, because I think Chavez is a putz.

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Wed Oct 15, 2008 9:27 pm
by _Droopy
Angus McAwesome wrote:Now why is it this story makes me smile? Oh, right, because I think Chavez is a putz.


He is also a socialist, and his society has gone well down the road to serfdom and is paying the conomic and social price.

He is a putz, but the foundational principles of his ideology and policies are the same as you support and defend.

Smile indeed.

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 12:35 am
by _Angus McAwesome
Droopy wrote:He is a putz, but the foundational principles of his ideology and policies are the same as you support and defend.


Drip[py, you don't even know what socialism is. Also, show me where I've been supporting things like nationalization of our industry, you lying hatfucker.

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:18 am
by _Droopy
Drip[py, you don't even know what socialism is. Also, show me where I've been supporting things like nationalization of our industry, you lying hatfucker.



This is one of the standard tactics of the great unwashed, and the seriously unread.

Angus, in all his ranting fulminations relative to my alleged lack of knowledge of what socialism is, has never as yet, not in many months of such dicussions, actually proposed a definition.

I wonder why?

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 2:56 am
by _Angus McAwesome
So then you admit that you lied about saying I ever have supported socialism and about you having any idea at all abotu what socialism is then.

Good deal.

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 3:05 am
by _Droopy
So then you admit that you lied about saying I ever have supported socialism and about you having any idea at all abotu what socialism is then.

Good deal.


No. To the best of my knowledge, based upon the positions you've always taken here, you're a leftist, which is to say, a socialist.

And it is probably you who has no idea what socialism is, but, as you have so far refused to define or elucidate the concept, its difficult to tell.

Re: The Fruits of Socialism

Posted: Thu Oct 16, 2008 11:07 am
by _Angus McAwesome
Because anyone who isn't a far-right republican is a "leftist" simply because they aren't as far right as you. You wouldn't know an actual left of center political if one were to jump up ans tattoo MoveOn.org on your forehead, you bleeding idiot.