taxes

[_Tarski]

In 2001, McCain voted against the Bush tax cuts, saying, "I cannot in good conscience support a tax cut in which so many of the benefits go to the most fortunate among us, at the expense of middle-class Americans."

Now, maybe Jason can tell me why a guy who wants to be president could be so confused.

Resource
http://www.taxpolicycenter.org/briefing ... /index.cfm
(Scroll down to "Beneficiaries of the Bush Tax Cuts")


http://www.nytimes.com/2007/01/08/washington/08tax.html

http://www.tampabay.com/opinion/editori ... 865068.ece


More to come (specifics)....

[_Jason Bourne]

Tarski,

I am not a fanatical supporter of the way our current taxes work. I think McCain was correct in what he said back then and think less of him for back peddling now.

All I do is point out the reality. In another thread I noted that there have been tax cuts across the board under Bush, which is true. So the middle and lower class have gotten cuts and some good ones. I also noted that the upper income people have gotten cuts and gotten them at a much larger dollar amount. I am not an ideologue on this and am just providing facts. Had the Bush tax cuts only been given to the those under say 250k and those above 250k been left at the rates Clinton had in effect I would not have complained.

by the way I am leaning 75% toward voting for Obama

[_Tarski]

Tarski,

I am not a fanatical supporter of the way our current taxes work.

by the way I am leaning 75% toward voting for Obama

Jason I don't think you are a fanatical anything and I appreciate your efforts at moderation and efforts at keeping us all honest.

My feeling about Obama is that he is a motivator and a symbol of change. I think we need that right now, and I don't think the American people will let him do anything outrageous so I think it's worth giving him a try. I think Powell called him a "transformational figure". That much seems true from where we stand now.
As far as actual policies and so forth I think that his advisor's will be the important factor and he seems to have chosen serious and moderate economic and foreign affairs advisors. I am not an economist or trained in political science but I try my best to make good judgments.
I also think the far left will find him disappointly centrist.
I guess we will see what happens.

[_Droopy]

My feeling about Obama is that he is a motivator and a symbol of change. I think we need that right now, and I don't think the American people will let him do anything outrageous so I think it's worth giving him a try. I think Powell called him a "transformational figure". That much seems true from where we stand now.
As far as actual policies and so forth I think that his advisor's will be the important factor and he seems to have chosen serious and moderate economic and foreign affairs advisors. I am not an economist or trained in political science but I try my best to make good judgments.
I also think the far left will find him disappointly centrist.
I guess we will see what happens.

The ability of people like Tarski to retreat almost entirely into fantasy in this manner is utterly terrifying, and its implications for a free society, if their are too many more like him, are bleak indeed.

[_Tarski]

couples making $250,000 or more or singles making more than $200,000

Go ahead and adjust it down Mr. m Obama. I don't care. Let's just recall Bush senior's campaign chant "read my lips". (ya, he raised taxes but the right doesn't fault their own party see)