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Aussie gun control

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 3:03 pm
by _christopher
Ray (or others)-

I got the following forwarded to me from my "family e-mail forwarder". Is it internet BS or true?


It has now been 12 months since gun owners in  Australia were forced by new law to surrender 640,381 personal firearms to be destroyed by their own government, a program costing  Australia taxpayers more than $500 million dollars. The first year results are now in: 

Australia-wide, homicides are up 3.2 percent 

Australia-wide, assaults are up 8.6 percent 

Australia-wide, armed robberies are up 44 percent (yes, 44 percent)! 

In the state of  Victoria alone, homicides with firearms are now up 300 percent. Note that while the law-abiding citizens turned them in, the criminals did not, and criminals still possess their guns! 

Re: Aussie gun control

Posted: Tue Dec 23, 2008 5:13 pm
by _Angus McAwesome
See what happens when you give up your right to bear arms? My favorite brain bug the gun control crowd uses is the whole "if we ban guns then gun crime will go away!". Because wouldn't you know it, criminals wouldn't break the law, amirite? Right? Guys?

Re: Aussie gun control

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 5:46 am
by _bcspace
Australia no longer qualifies as one of the United States. However, the moon still belongs to America.

:wink:

Re: Aussie gun control

Posted: Wed Dec 24, 2008 6:43 am
by _ajax18
Yeah, but we know that criminal behavior is due to the situation of the individual and not to any mythical free will. Criminal behavior represents the failure of societies social programs not the bad decisions of free men. The problem is lack of education. Our schools have failed to educate our young people to develop moral behavior. This has nothing to do with the fact that we've all but banned teaching any form of morality in school. We need more classes where we bitch and quarrel about what is right and wrong. This will help promote moral behavior. I find that implementing unfair laws helps foster young peoples faith in the justice system. And the immediate benefits of those inequities in righting perceived wrongs of many years past helps us understand that people who act immorally aren't just making excuses to avoid a just punishment. After all, the greatness of society is measured by how little it has to punish. Punishment should be only used if it improves behavior, if it doesn't, we shouldn't punish but rather reward criminal behavior with increased goods and services. Heavier taxes on those abide the laws and increased services for those who don't. It's the only way!

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Re: Aussie gun control

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:12 am
by _Ray A
christopher wrote:Ray (or others)-

I got the following forwarded to me from my "family e-mail forwarder". Is it internet BS or true?


I only just saw this Christopher, so apologies for a late reply. From the figures I've read, yes it appears correct. Gun control hasn't made a difference in preventing homicides. Criminals have access to guns anyway, as many of them didn't surrender their weapons during the amnesty, and knives are now the most common weapon used, or in the case of hold-ups, blood-filled syringes are also used. I had a cab driver mate who was stabbed last week, and for a report on that you can check out my blog.

I'd have to check some more figures and will get back later.

Re: Aussie gun control

Posted: Thu Dec 25, 2008 3:13 am
by _Ray A
bcspace wrote:Australia no longer qualifies as one of the United States. However, the moon still belongs to America.

:wink:


Full moon? :wink: