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Re: A perfect example of Leftist Delusion and Brainwashing...

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leeuniverse wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:34 am
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Tue Aug 31, 2021 2:22 am
That’s because you insist on believing the caricatures you find on YouTube instead of spending the time and effort to learn what you’re talking about. Your description of critical race theory is flat wrong and critical race theory isn’t being taught to children.
Your First LIE: The things I watch on YouTube show what's happening, your OWN words, your OWN actions in FULL CONTEXT, and they explain what's really right and true, what the FULL and actual facts are. I study LONG-FORM materials.

Your Second LIE: Nope, everything that falls under the "umbrella" of Critical Race Theory absolutely teaches what I've said. DOZENS of those I follow and some other videos I've watched, including Parents and others at various SCHOOL BOARD Meetings in the country, DIRECTLY QUOTE the teaching documents in question, the videos they show in their "classes", etc.

Your Third LIE: It absolutely IS being taught to children all over the country.
This statement clearly shows how brainwashed Leftists are, because that's exactly what you all claim on your "NEWS" programs. You don't know ANYTHING outside of Leftist "News".
You're completely ignorant of the fact that there are 1,000's of examples in various Secondary, and Elementary Schools which teach this stuff, including Kindergarten, and even more so "individual" Leftist teachers are teaching children their Leftist SJW/critical race theory crap, not "just" it being taught with "official" teacher program materials. So on every single level of speak falsely.

So, again, your every statement was a LIE...
Lee, your accusation of lying is just your usual anti-left bigotry. If you haven’t grown out of that, I’m happy to let you rant and rave in peace.

Critical Race theory is a form of Critical Theory, which came out of the Critical Legal Studies movement in the 1970s and 1980s. I attended law school during the heyday of the Critical Legal Studies movement and I’m very familiar with Critical Theory. I believe Derrick Bell, an early proponent of critical race theory, was on his teaching strike while I was there, so I never took a class from him. But critical race theory was a hot issue at the time (although it may not have been given the critical race theory label at that time.

critical race theory is a legal theory that analyses how racism can be embedded in institutions, in particular, the criminal justice system. It’s law school or undergraduate college level material.

What opinion leaders on the right have done is mangled what critical race theory is in order to create the latest bogeyman to scare and piss off guys like you who take inflammatory you tube videos as gospel truth. Congratulations. Then got you again.

The right uses critical race theory to mean any mention of Race that makes them uncomfortable. Which is any discussion of Race. They are using the critical race theory bogeyman to avoid teaching the history of slavery in the United States and the rise and fall of Jim Crow. You can’t understand the US off today if you don’t learn about slavery and the impact it has on the US. Teaching accurate history about slavery and the Jim Crow era isn’t teaching critical race theory. It’s teaching American History.

And I sincerely doubt that anyone finds my own words interesting enough to include in a YouTube. And my comments about critical race theory are not based on anything in the media. Their based on my direct experience.

For all your bluster, I doubt you can give an accurate description of what critical race theory says.
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Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 am
You can’t understand the US off today if you don’t learn about slavery and the impact it has on the US. Teaching accurate history about slavery and the Jim Crow era isn’t teaching critical race theory. It’s teaching American History.
Yup. The industrialisation of the ancient human institution of slavery was a major part of the foundation of American prosperity, as it was of parts of European prosperity.

It was not the only part, but it had such an appallingly effect on the kidnapped and brutalised ex-humans who were reduced to the status of animals labouring in the plantations that it deserves our close and honest attention.
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LOL... Critical race theory has NOTHING to do with "teaching about slavery" the history of Jim Crow etc.
I should know, I was raised in MANY public schools which taught the history of racism in this country, taught MLK's Dream etc.
critical race theory has literally NOTHING to do with those things...

critical race theory is a NEW system of understanding of race which started in the 70's, COMPLETELY SEPARATE and different from traditional history and teaching on racism being bad, and even makes Martin Luther King Jr. and ENEMY of blacks, that's how FAR it's gone, that "color blindness" is "white supremacy", etc. That whites have nothing but "privilege" no matter their station in life, that blacks are forever a "victim" of the system, and will be so until THEY have taken over the system, and whites have been subjugated, and on and on and on. THESE our out of THEIR OWN CLASSES... which are on video, on audio... So I'm NOT "making **** up". YOUR ignorance is not my not knowing what I'm talking about.

You just make clear that you know NOTHING about what you're talking about.
You pull out the old "canard" that critical race theory is just teaching about racism, but it's not... It's bringing BACK racism. Still promoting the racism of low-expectations in relation to blacks, but on steroids, and open racism against whites, that they aren't allowed to speak, that they must "apologize" for their "inherent racism of being white", etc.
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Chap wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 8:56 am
Res Ipsa wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 4:50 am
You can’t understand the US off today if you don’t learn about slavery and the impact it has on the US. Teaching accurate history about slavery and the Jim Crow era isn’t teaching critical race theory. It’s teaching American History.
Yup. The industrialisation of the ancient human institution of slavery was a major part of the foundation of American prosperity, as it was of parts of European prosperity.

It was not the only part, but it had such an appallingly effect on the kidnapped and brutalised ex-humans who were reduced to the status of animals labouring in the plantations that it deserves our close and honest attention.
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Tue Aug 31, 2021 11:58 am
LOL... Critical race theory has NOTHING to do with "teaching about slavery" the history of Jim Crow etc.
I should know, I was raised in MANY public schools which taught the history of racism in this country, taught MLK's Dream etc.
critical race theory has literally NOTHING to do with those things...
So, err, leeuniverse agrees with Res Ipsa and me?

But I have the weird impression that he simply has not noticed ...
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Chap wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:15 pm
So, err, leeuniverse agrees with Res Ipsa and me?

But I have the weird impression that he simply has not noticed ...
What you don't get with what you two have said, is that blacks were becoming SUCCESSFUL when they were Republican.
Yet somehow magically, when blacks became Democrat, they somehow started experiencing the "effects" of slavery, Jim Crow, etc.

You don't get that you're just regurgitating bull**** propaganda, NOT actual truth, reality, and history.
I'm going to clue you in... It's new versions of Democrat ideology, racism, and systems of oppression that have caused blacks to be in their "current" condition, not slavery, not Jim Crow. It's 100% AFTER becoming Democrat.

I actually believe there IS systemic racism in this country... but it's NOT the way you think it is.
It's the systems Democrats have set up which have destroyed the black spirit, the black family, etc. Republicans don't run most highly black areas, Democrats do. What is it Dr. Phil says...? "How's that working out for you"?

Republicans aren't the problem, Democrats are and ALWAYS have been. That's History, that's the facts and reality.
Just look up black "metrics" for yourself, verify my every word. Look at when blacks started voting Democrat, and see how their "outcomes" changed.

But, I know you won't learn for yourself... just "accept" what you're told, use no critical thinking of your own to see what's REALLY the truths of history and racism.

Let's be clear about something else... Black Conservatives think the same as me, and guess what, almost ALL of them are successful people.
You can call them Coons, Uncle Toms, Race Traitors etc. like you racist Leftists like to do. But you don't have the blacks we do... Sure, you have successful blacks, but the vast majority are NOT successful. But ALL of ours are... Can you guess what would happen if blacks became Republican again...? They would become successful and our world would become a better place.

You Leftists have created ALL of the misery in this world, doesn't matter when you were the KKK and the NAZIS, or today BLM and Antifa, all of which are Leftist political terrorist arms who attack and destroy your perceived "enemy", taking away rights, prosecuting and killing the innocent, just like you did to blacks of history, to the Jews, etc. or today destroying EVERY major U.S. city for a whole year because of your LIES about Trump, Police, and Race, including attacking and killing those on the Right and other innocents. You DESTROY everything you touch. Venezuela is the latest entire country you've destroyed.
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leeuniverse wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:35 pm
... blacks were becoming SUCCESSFUL when they were Republican.
Yet somehow magically, when blacks became Democrat, they somehow started experiencing the "effects" of slavery, Jim Crow, etc.
Thanks for explaining. That's a rather novel point of view on slavery and its aftermath, as you no doubt realise.

So when black people actually were slaves, and hence experiencing the effects of slavery in their most direct form, they were Democrats?
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Chap wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:46 pm
leeuniverse wrote:
Tue Aug 31, 2021 12:35 pm
... blacks were becoming SUCCESSFUL when they were Republican.
Yet somehow magically, when blacks became Democrat, they somehow started experiencing the "effects" of slavery, Jim Crow, etc.
Thanks for explaining. That's a rather novel point of view on slavery and its aftermath, as you no doubt realises.

So when black people actually were slaves, and hence experiencing the effects of slavery in their most direct form, they were Democrats?
LOL, you clearly didn't get it...
Blacks were becoming successful between Slavery and the 1940's when they first started voting Democrat majority due to FDR's The New Deal (note when Democrats were STILL openly racist, Jim Crow and all), and then FULLY so at around 90% in the 60's during the last Civil Rights Act in which LBJ who was the actual racist falsely called Goldwater a racist for not supporting the bill, when Goldwater was a "Libertarian" so he didn't think more laws were necessary, it had NOTHING to do with being racist, but that LIE about the Right, the Act, and the massive expansion of Welfare gained Democrats full black support.

In other words, between Slavery and 1960 blacks were successful and becoming even more so, but IMMEDIATELY after that, in other words after becoming Democrat, they have been utterly destroyed in all metrics. Again note however, ONLY Democrat blacks... Republican blacks have ALWAYS been successful and becoming more successful. In fact, we have almost NONE who aren't successful. But Democrats have the vast majority who ARE NOT successful... What does that tell you?

Like I said... Slavery and Jim Crow somehow weren't holding blacks back when they were Republican, but the MOMENT they became Democrat, they have been decimated.
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leeuniverse wrote:
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In other words, between Slavery and 1960 blacks were successful and becoming even more so, but IMMEDIATELY after that, in other words after becoming Democrat, they have been utterly destroyed in all metrics.
Lee, can you throw some facts and figures out there that show the wild success of the Black Renaissance before 1960, and then explain how and why they threw it all away in order to choose to be Democratic Party voters and ‘utterly destroyed’ again?

Thanks!
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This is just the usual Lee frothing at the mouth, regurgitating the outrage porn he is addicted to on you tube.

His description of the Jim Crow era is delusional. The southern whites didn’t check party affiliation before they lynched a black man. They hated the Republican Party; the notion that they didn’t apply Jim Crow laws to black Republicans is beyond absurd. Jim Crow had nothing to do with party affiliation. It was all about keeping black hands off the levers of political power. Period. And when black folks gained economic power, whites folks burned their businesses down.

Lee also does the common schtick of ignoring the movement of southern whites from the Democratic Party to the Republican Party. The shift began with the Democratic Party aligning itself with the Civil Rights movement. When Nixon ran for President, they adopted what’s now known as the Southern Strategy. Rather than try to appeal to the many black folks who could finally exercise their right to vote, they made a play for the southern whites that resented the civil rights movement. They hitched their wagon to the racist remnants of the old south. And they’ve had to cling to that vote and actively suppress non-white voters to stay in power.

The modern left grew out of the Civil Rights movement. Before that, the left was an economic movement in favor of workers. It was focused on fighting the excesses of capitalism or capitalism itself. The left, as opposed to the Democratic Party, did not promote or impose Jim Crow.

The rest of Lee’s ranting is the story racist whites tell themselves — that they are the real “victims” of racism. Their whole claim that the left has created a victim ideology is projection — they are the ones who see themselves as victims. That’s an intentional strategy by opinion leaders on the right — drum up fear and outrage among whites over Race issues. The standard tactic is to take terms like “white privilege” and critical race theory, redefine them as something scary to whites folks, and portray the terms as existential threats to white folks.

Lee doesn’t understand the concept of privilege. He understands a caricature of it that political strategists have intentionally employed to scare him and fed his resentment and paranoia. The same with critical race theory. It’s a political trick that Lee falls for every time.

Now, for sure, you’ll find people on the left that use Race issues to create fear and anger. There are people on the left who misuse concepts like privilege and critical race theory. There are millions of Americans, and at any given moment someone is saying something outrageous or that can be made to appear outrageous through selective editing.

We have a whole lot of Americans addicted to outrage porn. That, more than anything else, is why America is a badly weakened country that is ill equipped to deal with the modern challenge it faces. It’s not a problem limited to the right, although the right-wing media has systematically created outrage junkies much more efficiently than anything on the left. And the dealers will keep selling as long as there’s money to be made.
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