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This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:54 pm
by _Bob Loblaw
I thought the HuffPo was the Holy Grail of liberals. What gives?

http://www.huffingtonpost.com/steve-lom ... 81881.html

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 8:59 pm
by _Res Ipsa
Isn't this the LDS church's PR firm?

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:00 pm
by _bcspace
Yeah, what's up with that? What I think it is, is a liberal news outlet not wanting to get caught calling an election erroneously which would discredit them in the minds of the comrade sheeple. Of course among the intelligent, any liberal organization must be intrinsically discredited.

Isn't this the LDS church's PR firm?


HuffPo or Lombardo?

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:01 pm
by _Bob Loblaw
I'm still sticking with my original guess on the electoral split, and it looks to me like an Obama win. But I would love to see David Axelrod shave off his mustache.

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:02 pm
by _Res Ipsa
bcspace wrote:Yeah, what's up with that? What I think it is, is a liberal news outlet not wanting to get caught calling an election erroneously which would discredit them in the minds of the comrade sheeple. Of course among the intelligent, any liberal organization must be intrinsically discredited.

Isn't this the LDS church's PR firm?


HuffPo or Lombardo?


LOL. I was referring to Edelman Berland.

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:07 pm
by _bcspace
If Ohio is the center of this election, then Hamilton county will likely determine which way Ohio goes. It's about 2/3 Republican (metro suburbs of Cincinnati) and 1/3 Democrat (urban Cincinnati). Obama won it in 2008 by a few thousand votes.

Total population 800,000 (a drop of 50,000 from the year 2000). Anecdotal word now coming out of polling stations predicts a 75-80% turnout in the Republican precincts there. Democrat precincts way down but no word of a percent.

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:10 pm
by _Res Ipsa
If the demographics have changed that dramatically in that area, projecting a winner based on past elections is pretty dicey.

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:13 pm
by _Bob Loblaw
bcspace wrote:If Ohio is the center of this election, then Hamilton county will likely determine which way Ohio goes. It's about 2/3 Republican (metro suburbs of Cincinnati) and 1/3 Democrat (urban Cincinnati). Obama won it in 2008 by a few thousand votes.

Total population 800,000 (a drop of 50,000 from the year 2000). Anecdotal word now coming out of polling stations predicts a 75-80% turnout in the Republican precincts there. Democrat precincts way down but no word of a percent.


Really, it all comes down to what the electorate looks like. Democrats are counting on a turnout similar to 2008's (and most polls have assumed that), but I very much doubt that, as there's clearly more energy with the Republicans, and I suspect more than a few who voted for Obama in '08 will stay home or vote for Romney.

I think it will be very close in the popular vote, but not as close in the electoral vote. As a conservative, I hope I'm wrong.

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:19 pm
by _bcspace
If the demographics have changed that dramatically in that area, projecting a winner based on past elections is pretty dicey.


Not necessarily. Who knows when that population decreased over a decade? Smoothly? Earlier? Later? What percentage blue or white collar? Etc. The 2010 election is not so far removed and Republicans seem to have just as much enthusiasm.

Re: This is a surprise

Posted: Tue Nov 06, 2012 9:26 pm
by _subgenius
From the article cited in the OP, I believe this to be the most revealing, and most overlooked, assumption not being mentioned seriously about this election

"We believe the electorate is going to look a lot more like 2004 or 2010 than 2008; if that is the case, Romney will win."