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Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 5:21 pm
by _MeDotOrg
ALEX SEITZ-WALD wrote:Jack Hunter, who co-authored Rand Paul’s 2011 book and now directs new media for the Kentucky senator, has a past alter ego as the “Southern Avenger,” a provocative radio personality known for wearing a luchador mask emblazoned with the Confederate flag and for making outrageous comments about race and Southern secession, Alana Goodman of the Washington Free Beacon reveals today.
As the arguably white nationalist Southern Avenger, Hunter praised the assassination of Abraham Lincoln, saying he “raise[s] a personal toast every May 10 to celebrate John Wilkes Booth’s birthday,” compared Lincoln to Saddam Hussein, and suggested the great American president would have had a homosexual relationship with Adolf Hitler, had the two ever met. He also advocated against Hispanic immigration and in favor of white pride, warning that a “non-white majority America would simply cease to be America.”
Prior to that, Hunter was a prominent neo-Confederate and pro-secession activist, serving as a chairman in the League of the South, which, according to its website, “advocates the secession and subsequent independence of the Southern States from this forced union and the formation of a Southern republic.”
Many have called the League implicitly racist, but Hunter denied this in an interview with the Free Beacon, and disavowed many of his earlier statements, chalking it up to the naiveté of youth. “I was a young person, it was a fairly radical group — the same way a person on the left might be attracted in college to some left-wing radical groups.” (He said in 2009, when he was in mid-30s, that he still believed much of it — “In fact, I might be getting worse” — and he continued to produce the radio show until 2012, when Paul hired him full time.)
And the worst part for Paul-land is that it’s hardly the first time something like this has come up. In late 2009, Rand Paul’s campaign spokesperson was forced to resign after Kentucky blogger Joe Sonka discovered the MySpace page for Chris Hightower’s heavy metal band, which was a fan of KKK gear and wishing people a “HAPPY N***ER DAY!!!” on Martin Luther King Day (that post was accompanied by a photo of a lynching).
The complete article is at
Salon.comJust so we're clear on what a luchador mask looks like, here's a picture:
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 7:31 pm
by _EAllusion
Yes, the paleolibertarian, Lew Rockwell type crowd that Ron and his son Rand Paul are emeshed in has a close association with neoconfederates. Unsurprisingly, the neoconfederate movement is loaded to the gills with racists like this guy. Those associations are one of the cons of the Pauls. Anti-Lincoln sentiment is popular among many, though not all libertarians for a variety of reasons. Among the reasons, some of it is a belief in a right of succession and democratic self-determination, some of it is his horrid civil rights record, and some of is that neoconfederate sympathies. Different people have different reasons. The anti-Lincoln sentiment is extremely strong among the paleo crowd, though.
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 9:04 pm
by _ldsfaqs
I've always said that many of those on the extreme right "Libertarians" such as Alex Jones have some Leftist ideology in them. The way they are critical and misrepresent conservatives, just like the left does, etc.
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Tue Jul 09, 2013 11:41 pm
by _MeDotOrg
ldsfaqs wrote:I've always said that many of those on the extreme right "Libertarians" such as Alex Jones have some Leftist ideology in them. The way they are critical and misrepresent conservatives, just like the left does, etc.
So when the right is right, it's right, but when right is wrong, it's left?
Could you please explain which of Mr. Hunter's views contain 'Leftist ideology'?
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 1:04 pm
by _ldsfaqs
MeDotOrg wrote:So when the right is right, it's right, but when right is wrong, it's left?
Pretty much.... You are aware that almost everyone has some belief that might belong to another camp?
For example myself, I'm not "traditional" law abiding conservative or liberal in which I believe in things that might actually be breaking the law but are right, such as "Warez". Such is illegal, but I believe in it because it fits in with the higher law.
Could you please explain which of Mr. Hunter's views contain 'Leftist ideology'?
Well, I mentioned the obvious one already. Bearing false witness of others primarily belongs in leftist ideology. Any sort of evil or wrong is "left".
But, this should give you a general idea of the concept I'm speaking of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 7:50 pm
by _MeDotOrg
ldsfaqs wrote:MeDotOrg wrote:.Could you please explain which of Mr. Hunter's views contain 'Leftist ideology'?
Well, I mentioned the obvious one already. Bearing false witness of others primarily belongs in leftist ideology. Any sort of evil or wrong is "left".
But, this should give you a general idea of the concept I'm speaking of:
http://en.wikipedia.org/wiki/Left-libertarianism
So If 'Any sort of evil or wrong is left', your contention would be that the Ku Klux Klan is a left wing organization?
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:45 pm
by _EAllusion
"Left-libertarianism" are ideologies like Noam Chomsky's, which are quite different than the paleolibertarianism that the Pauls hail from.
Anarcho-capitalism and Anarhco-syndicalism have some important commonalities and some significant divergences. So, yes there is such a thing as leftist libertarianism, but that's a quite distinct thing from "radical" libertarians on the right and what this guy specifically is.
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 9:49 pm
by _EAllusion
The reality is that Ron Paul, and to a somewhat lesser extent, Rand Paul have long-running associations with groups of people who are either outright neoconfederate racists or sympathetic to them. These associations are something to take into consideration when supporting or not supporting them, not so much because there is much evidence that they share those specific opinions, but because their associations might find positions of power within the scope of their offices. That doesn't mean you are voting for doom and gloom racism when you cast a vote for either - voting for Obama's prosecution of the drug war is far, far more damaging to racial minorities than Paul having backing from white nationalists - but it does mean this is part of the package of risks you are likely getting.
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 10:24 pm
by _Analytics
ldsfaqs wrote:For example myself, I'm not "traditional" law abiding conservative or liberal in which I believe in things that might actually be breaking the law but are right, such as "Warez". Such is illegal, but I believe in it because it fits in with the higher law.
My understanding is that "Warez" refers to blatantly breaking copyright law by distributing books, movies, music, etc. without getting permission from or giving compensation to the people who own those works.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has an entire corporate entity (Intellectual Reserve Inc.) with the sole responsibility of defending its copyrighted works. As somebody who received an nasty cease-and-desist letter from a private law firm hired by the Church because I quoted a few pages of their teachings on a website without their permission, I know the Church takes their copyrights very seriously.
Does the Church know what the higher law is regarding copyright infringement?
Re: Rand Paul's co-author and prominent staffer is a racist
Posted: Wed Jul 10, 2013 11:14 pm
by _beastie
Analytics wrote:ldsfaqs wrote:For example myself, I'm not "traditional" law abiding conservative or liberal in which I believe in things that might actually be breaking the law but are right, such as "Warez". Such is illegal, but I believe in it because it fits in with the higher law.
My understanding is that "Warez" refers to blatantly breaking copyright law by distributing books, movies, music, etc. without getting permission from or giving compensation to the people who own those works.
The Church of Jesus Christ of Latter-day Saints has an entire corporate entity (Intellectual Reserve Inc.) with the sole responsibility of defending its copyrighted works. As somebody who received an nasty cease-and-desist letter from a private law firm hired by the Church because I quoted a few pages of their teachings on a website without their permission, I know the Church takes their copyrights very seriously.
Does the Church know what the higher law is regarding copyright infringement?
You have to remember you're talking to someone whose 'higher law' allowed him to build illegal bombs in his basement.