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Los Angeles Times wrote:Reporting from Tombstone, Ariz. — A billboard just outside this Old West town promises "Gunfights Daily!" and tourists line up each afternoon to watch costumed cowboys and lawmen reenact the bloody gunfight at the OK Corral with blazing six-shooters.

But as with much of the Wild West, myth has replaced history. The 1881 shootout took place in a narrow alley, not at the corral. Wyatt Earp and Doc Holliday weren't seen as heroic until later; they were initially charged with murder.

And one fact is usually ignored: Back then, Tombstone had far stricter gun control than it does today. In fact, the American West's most infamous gun battle erupted when the marshal tried to enforce a local ordinance that barred carrying firearms in public. A judge had fined one of the victims $25 earlier that day for packing a pistol.

"You could wear your gun into town, but you had to check it at the sheriff's office or the Grand Hotel, and you couldn't pick it up again until you were leaving town," said Bob Boze Bell, executive editor of True West Magazine, which celebrates the Old West. "It was an effort to control the violence."

ldsfaqs wrote:What's funny also is the lefts cognative dissonance....

They like to say how "we are a different world today, no need for guns", but then in the same breath, if more people have guns they claim we will all of a sudden become violent killers, killing each other because of simple arguments etc.

The further funny thing about that, like all liberal lack of thinking is. Is people have been carrying guns for a long time now, and such events almost never happen in contrast to the # that already carry guns. Thus, it's another liberal lie from "irrational fear" not facts and reality.

ldsfaqs wrote:"The further funny thing about that, like all liberal lack of thinking is. Is people have been carrying guns for a long time now, and such events almost never happen in contrast to the # that already carry guns. Thus, it's another liberal lie from "irrational fear" not facts and reality."

ldsfaqs wrote:What's funny also is the lefts cognative dissonance....

They like to say how "we are a different world today, no need for guns", but then in the same breath, if more people have guns they claim we will all of a sudden become violent killers, killing each other because of simple arguments etc.

The further funny thing about that, like all liberal lack of thinking is. Is people have been carrying guns for a long time now, and such events almost never happen in contrast to the # that already carry guns. Thus, it's another liberal lie from "irrational fear" not facts and reality.

Albion wrote:You mean compared to other western nations Americans haven't "become violent killers, killing each other because of simple arguments, etc."? How many Americans need to be killed by guns each year in comparison with any other western countries for this not to be true. If children were burning down buildings at the same rate Americans are killed with guns for any reason don't you think there would be a national campaign to stop children getting hold of matches? Whatever the cause of the deaths, it is my view Americans are not responsible enough to continue to own guns.

Albion wrote:ldsfaqs...California and Canada are fairly comparable in population. Can you compare gun death figures, for any cause, between the two? Are you suggesting that criminals in the US are not Americans? I don't particularly care who is responsible for gun deaths in the US nor if those deaths are a result of crime, suicide, accident or any other reason...the proliferation of guns in America is a symptom of the irresponsibility of Americans when it comes to owning guns. There is an attitude in America that lauds the macho, let's kick butt image and guns feed into that. I am by the way, neither "ignorant" nor a "moron"....but you are, indeed, insulting.

ldsfaqs wrote:It's happened in Australia with their gun ban, the UK, and everywhere else. ZERO change in actual violent death.

schreech wrote:

ldsfaqs wrote:It's happened in Australia with their gun ban, the UK, and everywhere else. ZERO change in actual violent death.

God, you are [personal attack deleted]:

"So what have the Australian laws actually done for homicide and suicide rates? Howard cites a study (pdf) by Andrew Leigh of Australian National University and Christine Neill of Wilfrid Laurier University finding that the firearm homicide rate fell by 59 percent, and the firearm suicide rate fell by 65 percent, in the decade after the law was introduced, without a parallel increase in non-firearm homicides and suicides. That provides strong circumstantial evidence for the law’s effectiveness."
http://www.washingtonpost.com/blogs/wonkblog/wp/2012/08/02/did-gun-control-work-in-australia/