Trump: Anti-semitic attacks possible 'false-flag' ops

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Trump: Anti-semitic attacks possible 'false-flag' ops

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If patriotism is the last refuge of a scoundrel, I'm not sure what this is:

New York Times wrote:Trump suggests anti-Semitic acts are ‘false-flag’ attacks

President Trump suggested on Tuesday that the recent spate of anti-Semitic bomb threats and cemetery vandalism could be politically coordinated attacks to “make people look bad” — an apparent suggestion that his opponents could be behind them.

Speaking at the White House to attorneys general from around the country, Mr. Trump was asked by Josh Shapiro, the attorney general of Pennsylvania, about the wave of attacks and how the federal government could work with state governments to confront the violence.

“First, he said the acts were reprehensible,” Mr. Shapiro, a Democrat who was elected to the post in November, said while recounting Mr. Trump’s response. “Second he said: ‘And you’ve got to be careful, it could be the reverse. This could be the reverse, trying to make people look bad.’ ”

The comments echoed the Twitter post of an adviser, Anthony Scaramucci, who suggested that Democrats were behind threats to Jewish community centers.

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Sunday night, I was at the home of a woman who was wearing a "She Persisted" sweatshirt in honor of Elizabeth Warren. Needless to say, not a big Trump supporter. During the course of the evening she was draw away by a phone call. She is on the board of directors for her synagogue here, and was notified about the attack in Philadelphia. There had already been an attack on a JCC less than 60 miles away. They were to have a meeting this week.

Graveyards are extremely soft targets. Outdoors at night they become fantastically expensive to secure. Periodic patrols can catch the casual teenage drinking party, but not someone who wishes to get in and out quickly.

Also, an attack on a graveyard tests the anti-semitic waters of the society. It's like a probing attack, looking for a response.

Trump's response is instructive. He simultaneously says it's horrible, and also, quite possibly is NOT anti-semitism. Maybe James Comey can investigate the Democrats for these anti-semitic acts. It's the way Trump loves to play with the facts. Yes, there was an attack, but are we sure it's anti-Semitism?

And maybe the attackers in Sweden were skinheads doing a false flag operation to stimulate hatred against immigrants. Are we sure that isn't true? You can say anything is a hypothetical possibility.

We know gravestones were knocked over. We know there have been attacks on graveyards and JCCs with increasing frequency. Rather than consider the possibility that his administration is emboldening some to make anti-immigrant and anti-Semitic attacks, he somehow wants us to believe it's the Democrat's fault, without providing a scintilla of evidence.

Maybe it's a side gig for people when they're not getting paid to demonstrate at Town Hall meetings.
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Does it even matter what political affiliation the attackers and threateners have? It is anti-Semitic no matter what.

This isn't rocket science.
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just me wrote:Does it even matter what political affiliation the attackers and threateners have? It is anti-Semitic no matter what.


Nope. If I harm a Jew for some other motive than that I hate or despise Jews - for instance, purely because I wish to rob him, just like I might want to rob anybody else - then my act, even though immoral, cannot be said to be an expression of antisemitism.

Trump is basically imagining that some Democrats may have knocked over Jewish gravestones in the hope that the public will think "Trump supporters did this because they hate Jews".

That would be an appalling and callous act of political cynicism. But it would not be motivated by hatred of Jews; indeed I even can conceive of Trump imagining that some Jews knocked over Jewish gravestones specifically so that people might think that Trump supporters hated them. Nothing is too bizarre to find a place in his brain if it helps him feel more powerful and more secure.
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just me wrote:Does it even matter what political affiliation the attackers and threateners have? It is anti-Semitic no matter what.

This isn't rocket science.


Well. Yeah. It does matter.

If Muslims are doing it then it's a sign Islamists are taking their religion seriously.

If the Alt-Right is doing it then neo-Nazis are on the rise.

If Leftists are doing it then it's a false flag op to give the appearance that fascism is on the rise.

If Jews did it then we're being manipulated by either Jewish Leftists or Zionists.

If existentialists are doing it they're just being absurd.

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Chap wrote:... I even can conceive of Trump imagining that some Jews knocked over Jewish gravestones specifically so that people might think that Trump supporters hated them.


Meh. He's probably thinking Dems did it.

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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Chap wrote:... I even can conceive of Trump imagining that some Jews knocked over Jewish gravestones specifically so that people might think that Trump supporters hated them.


Meh. He's probably thinking Democrats did it.

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Well, those Jewish democrats can be really, really devious, ya'know.
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Chap wrote:
Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:
Meh. He's probably thinking Democrats did it.

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Well, those Jewish democrats can be really, really devious, ya'know.


That's what Henry Ford was always saying. And Lindbergh. And William Dudley Pelley. And Father Coughlin. And Joe McCarthy. I think maybe Trump is channeling some dudes from the age of the vacuum tube. :eek:
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