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Macron today:

“When violence is unleashed, freedom stops," he said.
The French president promised to speed up tax relief and urged companies to give bonuses to struggling workers by the end of the year.
"I would ask all employers who can, pay an end-of-year bonus to their employees," he said.”


France is broken. They can’t tax anymore, they’ve lost control of their borders, they have lost control of assimilation over those who have flodded their borders looking for welfare, their down to a 4 day work week, they now demonstrate that climate control taxes has ruined what’s left of anything closely resembling an economy

Yet most ignorant fans of Anastasia Ocasio Cordez still want to support her cerebral insight into socialism, let alone anything resembling a prosperous economy

In France, their leader begs those he has taxed to the point of leaving to give bonuses to the angry mob the liberal (socialistic) policies created I hopes they can provide a living to for the sake of the country and his job.

In America, entrepreneurs are willing to work hard (perhaps subject to debate around here) and invest in an economy and people where employers willingly give bonuses to the well being of those that contribute without being begged.

France will soon become the next Venezuela. As Margaret Thatcher so insightfully predicted years ago: “socialism is great until you run out of everyone else’s money” (and effort).

Anyone here disagree? Anyone here have the time to even discuss?!?

Three things jump out at me.

1. France isn't Socialst.
2. Macron nowhere talks about or distinguishes between capitalism-liberalism.
3. You're an idiot.

Kevin Graham wrote:Three things jump out at me.

1. France isn't Socialst.
2. Macron nowhere talks about or distinguishes between capitalism-liberalism.
3. You're an idiot.

Just about right. France has problems, certainly.

But anyone who compares it with a one-commodity basket case like Venezuela is living in la-la land.

France has a long, long tradition (often a heroic and admirable tradition) of 'going out in the street' to express opposition to those in power. In this case a number of people, in the huge majority peaceful and law-abiding, did it to express economic/political discontent of the 'nobody listens to us' kind.

This doesn't happen in the US, or the UK: in the first case the equivalent of breaking shop windows and burning the odd newsstand was voting for Donald Trump, and in the UK it was voting to leave the European Union.

Bach,

If their protests had to be boiled down to one thing it would be this:

We are protesting the disappearance of the Middle Class because rich people and politicians, specifically Macron, aren't ensuring we have a fair wage and they've passed all the costs of the country onto us.

It's basically the opposite of what you're stating.

You know, for a successful business man such as yourself, I'm a bit surprised you post the kinds of opinions you do.

- Doc

Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Bach,

If their protests had to be boiled down to one thing it would be this:

We are protesting the disappearance of the Middle Class because rich people and politicians, specifically Macron, aren't ensuring we have a fair wage and they've passed all the costs of the country onto us.

It's basically the opposite of what you're stating.

You know, for a successful business man such as yourself, I'm a bit surprised you post the kinds of opinions you do.

- Doc

This may be way too difficult for your level, but what factors determines what a fair wage is, and how is that determination supposed to be sustainable in your brain, or the brains of the larger audience here? And please don’t use your volume of posting here as an excuse to actually research this issue.

(And for once I’d love to see Shades and ea let this poster actually answer the real issues of this response, doubt it w the protective bias known here)