MISSION ACCOMPLISHED! ISIS DEFEATED!

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You would think that after being President for 2 years that Trump would have learned that it's nice to give other departments a heads up about Executive branch decisions. The Pentagon and the State Department should be given a heads up when the United States is changing its military posture abroad.

TrumpTweet wrote:We have defeated ISIS in Syria, my only reason for being there during the Trump Presidency.

This was evidently news to Senators, the State Department and the Pentagon. Senator Corker was at the White House for a scheduled meeting with the President when the Syria announcement was made. Senator Corker's meeting was then cancelled. Senator Corker is Chairman of the Foreign Relations Committee. Reporters asked the White House about a timetable for the withdrawal. The White House said check with the Pentagon. The Pentagon referred reporters back to the White House.

Once again we are forced to ask why: Why does the President not consult or at least advise Departments who will be affected by this change of policy? Why the change of policy at this particular time? Why go against the advice of the most of the foreign policy community, who say while ISIS has been seriously diminished, it is not defeated, and an American presence is necessary in Syria?

I don't know if the President is merely becoming more and more irrational, or something more sinister with respect to Russia is going on. Our withdrawal from Syria is a gift to Putin without any concessions from the Great Dealmaker. Most foreign policy experts agree that this action is not in the best interests of the United States. So what is Trump's motivation? My fear is that the answers might be in the currently redacted files of the Mueller investigation.
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Well, it’s obvious now that when ISIS reconstitutes somewhere next week, it’ll be Obama’s fault, because Hillary’s emails. Or whatever Fox News will say.
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This is a huge win for Putin. Trump declares victory. Pulls the troops, and hands Syria and neighborhood to Putin.

And our allies in Syria have learned that you can't trust the US, which will serve to grow more jihadists.
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Getting out of Syria was no surprise. I’ve been campaigning on it for years, and six months ago, when I very publicly wanted to do it, I agreed to stay longer. Russia, Iran, Syria & others are the local enemy of ISIS. We were doing there work. Time to come home & rebuild. #MAGA


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- Doc
In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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Doctor CamNC4Me wrote:Image

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:lol: Somebody should put this on a billboard in D.C.
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I think the opposite message (a build of of troops in Syria) would send most of this board into the same frenzy. :lol:

Bring our troops home and let that fkd up part of the world deal with it itself. Nothing in that part of the world is "better" for our involvement these past 20 years. Just a lot of dead people and some very rich military contractors.

If we are actually concerned with ISIS, we can meet them at the Mexican border.
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Black Moclips wrote:If we are actually concerned with ISIS, we can meet them at the Mexican border.

No worries; we actually have three times as many active duty troops along the US-Mex border right now than we have in Syria.

I’m sure that the number of ISIS-affiliated folks is much greater there than in a place like Syria.
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Black Moclips wrote:If we are actually concerned with ISIS, we can meet them at the Mexican border.


You're dead serious, aren't you?
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Black Moclips wrote:I think the opposite message (a build of of troops in Syria) would send most of this board into the same frenzy. :lol:

Bring our troops home and let that fkd up part of the world deal with it itself. Nothing in that part of the world is "better" for our involvement these past 20 years. Just a lot of dead people and some very rich military contractors.

If we are actually concerned with ISIS, we can meet them at the Mexican border.


I tend to agree with this sentiment. I don't think there was any political advantage to Trump, or anyone else for that matter, to be in Syria other than accepting the role of 'ISIS-killer'. The Middle East, imho, is best administrated through proxies or, better yet, left to its own devices. The problem with that, as we've seen, is when we give quarter to an ideological opponent they always press their advantage.

Perhaps we can eventually get a pan-Arab coalition & peace keeping force to do their own dirty work instead of sending our sons and daughters there in an attempt to stabilize an ungrateful region. After all, we have to stop the ravenous hordes of Central Americans from finding meaningful work at Panda Express.

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In the face of madness, rationality has no power - Xiao Wang, US historiographer, 2287 AD.

Every record...falsified, every book rewritten...every statue...has been renamed or torn down, every date...altered...the process is continuing...minute by minute. History has stopped. Nothing exists except an endless present in which the Ideology is always right.
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